It would definitely be better to make this change before the feature ships,
but it's up to y'all Blink owners if you think this should be a blocker for
this intent. The Audio Working Group is meeting tomorrow morning so
hopefully we'll be able to reach a consensus then!

On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 8:04 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 8:50:12 PM UTC+2 ev...@google.com wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for the thorough review! I've opened a GitHub issue
> <https://github.com/WebAudio/web-speech-api/issues/156> for the remaining
> request. Hopefully we'll settle on an option before the next Audio Working
> Group meeting on 5/15! I'll update the spec as soon as we do.
>
>
> Is this issue a blocker for this intent, or is it an option that can be
> added in a backwards compatible way later on?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Evan
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 8:10 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Evan and Jeff.
>
> Evan: if we can get to API symmetry, I think that will help considerably.
>
> Evan/Jeff: this seems like good advice from the TAG. When do we think we
> can get the bikeshed repain...er...develop updated names?
>
> Best,
>
> Alex
>
> On Wednesday, May 7, 2025 at 12:12:29 AM UTC-7 Jeffrey Yasskin wrote:
>
> FYI, the TAG finished our review with https://github.com/
> w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2853142041. We were
> generally happy with the design decisions that Evan and the WG have made,
> but we were still concerned that "ondevice-only" excludes some choices that
> future UAs might reasonably want to explore. We listed 5 kinds of locations
> that a user might want to run speech recognition (or heavy workloads in
> general), and we thought the WG should look at the concrete websites that
> want to adopt this, figure out which locations they're ok with, and pick a
> name based on that. We didn't think Google Meet's described use case for
> "ondevice-only"
> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2837046998>
>  was
> even about recognition location, but it might also indicate a feature the
> WG might want to add.
>
> Jeffrey
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2025 at 11:31 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We discussed the TAG feedback at the Audio Working Group meeting yesterday
> and I've posted our response here: https://github.com/
> w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2815982645
>
> Please let me know if anyone has any questions/comments/concerns.
>
> I don't think there's any particular reason to unprefix before shipping
> on-device, is there?
>
> Also to answer your question, Rick, I don't think there's any reason to
> unprefix before shipping on-device, so we might as well lump it together as
> a bundle :).
>
> Thanks!
> Evan
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 10:54 AM Brian Kardell <bkard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just linking this up as I see there are some questions, but the opening
> post seems to suggest there are positive signals from WebKit...
>
> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/443
>
> On Wednesday, April 16, 2025 at 10:55:52 AM UTC-4 Rick Byers wrote:
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 8:14 PM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the detailed feedback, Jeffrey! We'll discuss this at the Audio
> Working Group meeting this week and I'll update this thread afterwards.
>
> Thanks,
> Evan
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 9:08 PM Jeffrey Yasskin <jyas...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> FYI, the TAG left comments at https://github.com/w3ctag/
> design-reviews/issues/1038#issuecomment-2803693504.
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 10:22 AM Evan Liu <ev...@google.com> wrote:
>
>  Are you thinking it might be reasonable to ship in M128 (decide by branch
> on Apr 28, plan to merge any required changes before May 21)?
>
> That sounds like a reasonable target, assuming TAG doesn't propose any
> significant changes.
>
> That said, if you want to, I'm supportive of shipping the unprefixing
> alone <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6422562> now,
> since you already proved to us that the unprefixed API is not an
> opportunity to make any breaking API changes. Do you prefer to decouple
> that, or just wait and get the whole bundle approved to ship together?
>
> Either is fine with me! Would decoupling just be a matter of making the
> changes, or would I need to create a separate Chrome Status entry, get
> position statements, all of the approvals, etc.? If it's the former, we
> might as well make the change now. Otherwise it might just be easier to
> bundle everything together.
>
>
> I'm OK with just shipping the unprefixing under this same intent without
> the extra paperwork, but also it's a bit simpler if we just keep it all
> lumped together as a bundle. I don't think there's any particular reason to
> unprefix before shipping on-device, is there?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Evan
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 6:51 AM Thomas Steiner <to...@google.com> wrote:
>
> This all looks great to me! Are you thinking it might be reasonable to
> ship in M128 (decide by branch on Apr 28, plan to merge any required
> changes before May 21)?
>
>
> Off by one, classic. I think you meant 1*3*8 here. I know it's obvious
> now, but someone might once look back at this in ten years from now and
> wonder…
>
>
> Whoops, yes of course - thank you :-).
>
>
>
>
>

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