On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:12 AM, Adam Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Very interesting proposals. Admittedly, for the use cases SIP is most
> interested in, the results are not typically HTML, but the idea of
> communicating these in the body may have merit. I'm curious about which use
> cases you have in mind -- do you imagine that there will be circumstances
> under which the HTTP server will have the ability to notify other nodes of
> changes, but not have the ability to include a Link: header?

absolutely - perhaps a resource hosted on a CDN, where you commonly
can not send custom headers.

or a blog, which may be hosted on some other platform (for example,
blogger.com) where you can edit the HTML but not the headers.

> I certainly want to accommodate all reasonable use cases; however, unless it
> enables use cases that would otherwise be impossible, I'm a bit concerned
> that having more than one way to get this information will lead to either
> increased implementation complexity (client will have to check both the
> headers and the body), or decreased interoperability (clients checking only
> the headers and not the body will fail to locate body-contained URIs).

a client would not need to check the body unless it understood the
content-type, and in the cases in SIP these would almost certainly not
be HTML documents, so the client would not need to parse a HTML
document for extracting a header.

the Link header as defined in draft-notthingham-http-link-header
itself is only a way of representing the <link> header in HTML and
<atom:link/> header in atom entries outside of the content where it is
not possible because the content-type does not have support.  So it
already "just works" by creating a link registry entry, however would
be good to explicitly point out that it could be anywhere a link
relation is allowed.

> I think you achieve approximately the same effect by applying RFC 5367 to
> the event package described in the draft. There is a minor bit of
> bootstrapping regarding the URI to send the RFC 5367 request to, and the
> draft should probably address this.
>
> Does that satisfy the property you're proposing?

yup!

> The NOTIFY needs to be sent out immediately anyway, to satisfy RFC 3265
> procedures.

of course it does - sorry ;)

 ~ Theo

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Theo Zourzouvillys
Chief Technical Officer
VoIP.co.uk - Commerce House, Telford Road, Bicester, OX26 4LD
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