On 20/07/17 10:09 , David Anderson wrote: >> Sorry, but this isn't a sustainable model. > Well, it's sustained us this far.
Well, in that case we have a different understanding of "sustainable". Yes, BOINC survived, barely, but did it strive? Is it easy (let alone fun) to use for downstream projects? Did it attract a healthy number of volunteer developers after the alleged transition into a community driven open source software (OOS) project? Sure, source code management (SCM) isn't all there's to it but it's a significant part of it. Maybe you underestimate its effect? I'm also nearing a ten-year involvement in BOINC and way too often it's been a pain to use it as a downstream project because of the way its SCM is done. It's codebase is brittle and just can't be trusted, unnecessarily. 15 years ago the tools and best practices were different. But these things are moving. Why not participate in the progress that's been made since then, making everyone's professional life easier and BOINC more attractive? Yes, that means change, but it doesn't hurt. If you don't adapt and progress it can only get worse, in particular from the point of view of newly interested scientists and contributors. What I'm trying to say is: responding to constructive criticism with "that's how we've done it for 10+ years, no need to change" isn't very helpful if you want to see things improve. My proposal is (once again) just meant to improve things - to make BOINC better. For instance, I for one just can't take over a responsible (!) role as release manager for, say, Android unless there's a codebase and a workflow I can trust. If ideas, proposals or contributions aren't discussed at all or rejected without meaningful reasoning people will stop trying. I'm sure that's not in your interest. Best, Oliver
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