Just for feedback....

I was going to suggest the action.child be added to the core myself.  The
concept of child was easily picked up by my users.  I have added
action.child on all sites as a result.

When watching and assisting how users were using the system, almost none of
them used action.create since they either simply entered in the new page as
a URL, or more commonly, created a link on a page and then clicked on the
link to create the page.

I have also removed from many sites to reduce the number of action links, is
is action.source.  In a survey of users, I found no body was using it.
Instead they went to the page and hit edit to see the source instead.  I
must confess, I do the same thing.

All of my sites have gui buttons as well since without it, users are really
lost.  They either don't remember what the mark up is because they are new
or simply don't use it enough.  Many of them also use forum software which
has that type of functionality in every major package I've ever seen.

Even I struggle when using the boltwire site as I am so used to it being
there.  It is a default installed plugin on all my sites. Not suggesting it
be in the core, just providing feedback.

ClearURL's is also setup by default on all sites.  Provides easier to
understand links for both users, search engines and as a reference url
posted as a link.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:12 AM, The Editor <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Lino <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Let me parachute for a moment. Hi guys!
> > There are just a few small things I use and it would be nice to have
> > it in the core:
> > - Tree functions - copy, rename, delete - what can be added here is
> > pulling (renaming, deleting) stamp pages with the tree
>
> I'll be putting this in BoltWire CMS. Good idea to take care of
> stamps, though eventually they do take care of themselves...  :)
>
> > - Create here (or child) - elaborated here years ago
>
> Using Markus's suggestion I'm willing to change the key part in
> action.create to:
>
> [text target [if ! equal {p} action.create]{p}[if] size=25]
>
> If you link to [[action.create|Create]] you have current
> functionality, still the default. To get your desired functionality
> just add an action link [[{p}&action=create|Create Here]]
>
> It automatically works both ways. I don't want to make this latter one
> the default however, as I still think it is more confusing to see a
> pre-entered page name you cannot actually use. And then the problem of
> child of child when you really want a sibling page. A shortcut for
> more advanced users, yes. But for new users I want everything as
> simple as possible.
>
> > Also, as BW is so good in document management, it would be perfect to
> > have Book_It function. I mean, if we have hierarchy, it is a snap to
> > collect all pages to one file > pdf it or latex it or do whatever you
> > like with it.
> >
> > Of course, naming convention must be :) and showing title in collected
> > file instead of page.name would help.
>
> This is a great idea. I actually used BoltWire to write my last book.
> Gave me a lot of flexibility in working on and revising any section I
> wanted to. Got collaborative help with the writing and editing. And
> then when I was finished just did a report that pulled the whole book
> in, and copied it to my word processor.
>
> How to export it to pdf is a whole other question though. If you know
> how to do it easily, I'd be eager to learn! If you just want a
> template for a full page html report, that's pretty easy...
>
> > Dan, I hope you'll earn so much money that you'll need somebody to
> > index it :)
>
> Appreciate the good wishes. The reward for me though is having a tool
> I can use. And this community has definitely added immeasurably to the
> quality of that tool. My thanks to you all. Of course if someone
> offers me a million bucks for the code I probably won't complain...
> :)
>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
>

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