>>>>> "AB" == Alex Brelsfoard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AB> I like this idea. I think Perl certification WOULD make the world happier. AB> Then again, I like Greg's idea. AB> Think maybe some of us PerlMongers could get together and actually start AB> up a real Perl certification program? oy!! perl cert has been argued at length in many fora with no victor. my sense is the majority don't want it since it will be only used by those who don't know perl :) ever find an MSCE who actually knew something? most certified computer people just pass a test but don't really know the subject. and mangler who hire based on required certs just don't get it and they get what they deserve. setting up a cert group is a major project. note that most certs are sponsored by the corp behind the product and perl doesn't have a corp. or they are crapola ones like brainbench. perl is also too broad and deep to properly create a standardized test. does it cover OO, CGI, CPAN, regexes, data structures, etc and how deep? specific modules (i have seen that and it is very dumb. you can always read the docs if you don't know a module)? i judge a perl (or any coder) by how they think, interact with problems, how they solved problems in the past, etc. this is best done with a general interview and getting them to talk about their past projects. see the depth of their knowledge in their project areas. see if they have the big picture and attention to detail. see how they use their experience and skills to solve the project problems. see how fast they pick up on project info you give them. those are all untestable skills and they are much more important than any rote test. if they have those skills, they can learn what is needed on the job. if all they can do is parrot book learning, then you will get a parrot. uri -- Uri Guttman ------ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------- http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

