Chris Devers said: > I think it would be nice if Perl were more popular. I don't think > advocacy is a bad thing. I don't think certification, or courses, are > unreasonable. But of the ways I can think of to make Perl more popular, > I'm not sure that any of these will be more effective than simply > writing great software that a lot of people benefit from: setting up a > certification program; setting up a marketing campaign; ranting about > the matter endlessly on mailing lists; shouting down people who think > that having more great software would be a good thing.
It seems that the poeple who want to talk about certification are the ones getting shouted down here. --- Hey, maybe we could create certifcation as a way to advocate perl. Shut up. certification doesn't prove anything. But it might make advocate perl in the business world. Shut up. the business world is an idiot if it doesn't use perl when it should. But if they pay attention to certification, why not give it to them? Shut up. Certification only makes money for the certification company. But what if OReilly could offer free web-based certification? Shut up and do it yourself. I can't do it myself, that's why I'm bringing it to the Perl Monger list. Shut up and advocate then, and stop arguing on the mailing list. --- The mailing list is a shared channel. I don't shout people down because they're talking about something I don't want them to talk about. If you don't like certification, fine. If you have some historical information to give about it, fine. If you have some knowledge about certifciations attempt, fine. But after a certain point, the conversation moved from pointing out all the problems with certification, to attempting to push the conversation off the mailing list completely. There was at least one request to Ron to kill this thread, maybe two, I can't remember. And now most of the resistance is coming from people who have the attitude of "Just fucking do it, stop talking about it." Some poeple seem to have broken out in hives at the mere mention of certification and are foaming at the mouth to the point where they cannot remain silent while a couple people talk about certification, even if it doesn't go anywhere. The only "shouting down" I've done is to demand use of the channel for a legitimate conversation: perl advocacy. _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
