Hi. Sean, yes, we'll abandon your kwiki, and it looks like wikispaces a viable alternative.
I can request PM.ORG move the DNS to refer to the new wikispaces moderately quickly, give me a few days before you have to pull the plug. What's the timeframe? Maria, i acknowledge the existing Calendar history scroll is crazy, it needed refactoring someday. I'm open to sensible suggestions how to reorganize it. Key to me is saving the history, the content. (Moving to a new wiki we break any deeplinks anyway, so no value to preserving structure.) If Wikispaces has good ways to announce coming events, go ahead and use them. You can add September meeting as a coming event, it will be "Patching and Updating a CPAN Module" with Bill and Tom. (-: Whether Tom can attend or not, he's co-maintainer :-) -- bill On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Maria Huang <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sean, > > I converted some pages from http://boston.pm.org/kwiki to > http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ already, but not all of them, like Tom > said before, how calendar gets handled needs discussion, also I had thought > do we need have a section to hold presentation or talk, and encourage > members to sign up to this new site? > > I have been busy recently so I didn't work on it. I hope I can continue > working on it soon but I need comments or suggestions what will be next > step. > > I hope I answered your question. > > Best, > Maria > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Sean Quinlan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just pinging to get an idea if this is moving anywhere. I need to move > > boston.pm.org to a new hosting service. I can migrate everything, but > > it's one less thing to manage if I don't have to keep kwiki running post > > move. :) > > > > Cheers, > > Sean > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Thanks for your detailed information, and this can give me a jump start, > >> I will take a close look soon. > >> > >> Maria > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Tom Metro <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Bill Ricker wrote: > >> >>> ...Wikispaces page. (I think I have a site setup for Boston.pm > there, > >> >>> just awaiting content.) > >> >> > >> >> pointer ? that might kick start group use so make it worthwhile. > >> > > >> > http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ > >> > > >> > Created a year ago. I had intended to do an initial cut of the > >> > conversion, but it perpetually sits just out of reach at the bottom of > >> > my todo list. I guess now is as good a time as any to try and move it > >> > forward. > >> > > >> > > >> > Maria Huang wrote: > >> >> ...I think I can convert pages at home... > >> > > >> > Yes, there's no need to do this as an in-person meeting. That was just > >> > an idea to create a meeting topic that would also be productive for > the > >> > group. > >> > > >> > I think the reasoning behind not opening up the conversion to > volunteers > >> > before is that Bill wanted to see how it would look before committing > to > >> > switching over Boston.pm to use he new service. > >> > > >> > > >> >> And any deadline for this? > >> > > >> > None. The sooner it goes done, the sooner Bill can reduce or eliminate > >> > his efforts to repair spam and vandalism that occurs with our current > >> wiki. > >> > > >> > > >> >> And where is old wiki site? > >> > > >> > http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/ > >> > > >> > > >> >> ...just need some instructions. > >> > > >> > The first step is to go to: > >> > http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ > >> > > >> > and login (you can use OpenID) or create an account, and then request > >> > membership in the Boston.pm wikispace. > >> > > >> > I've picked a theme, colors, and created a logo. (That's the "Ubuntu > >> > Mono" font. I struggled to find something evocative of a terminal font > >> > that still looked OK when scaled up to logo size. That aside, I just > >> > combined the stock Perl onion with "Boston.pm". You should compare it > to > >> > the logo I did for the Boston.pm LinkedIn group, as you might like > that > >> > better.) > >> > > >> > I converted over the main page. A little bit of intro text, links to > >> > pm.org, perl.org, our mailing list page (needs to be created), our > jobs > >> > posting policy page (needs to be created), and I threw in a Creative > >> > Commons licensed picture of the Zakim Bridge for some cliché Boston > >> flavor. > >> > > >> > I added a section titled "Recent Meetings" which will automatically > >> > display the 5 most recent wiki pages tagged as "meeting". (It > currently > >> > shows only page page titles. There are probably things we could do to > >> > get it to pull in a page summary or some such.) > >> > > >> > I created a sample meeting page for our last meeting just so the > section > >> > above would have something to show. Well need to figure out a template > >> > for that, and settle on a page name format. > >> > > >> > Once the bulk of the data is moved over, time can then be spent > revising > >> > the look and feel (or perhaps making it look less wiki-like), > >> > customizing the menus, and making better use of the embedded widgets > >> > they offer, like to embed a Google Calendar. > >> > > >> > Looking at my notes from a prior conversation with Bill, this is the > >> > list of pages that need to be converted (most parenthetical comments > >> > from Bill): > >> > > >> > Home page (first draft done) > >> > MITDirections > >> > JobPostingPolicy > >> > IrcRoom > >> > BostonPMCalendar > >> > MongerLists > >> > Damian2006Mementos (with images, historical) > >> > BostonPMHistory (historical; Add entry marking end of kwiki) > >> > TechMeetingTopics (idea queue) > >> > > >> > There is another 4 or 5 less important pages that should also be > >> > converted at some point. > >> > > >> > How the calendar gets handled needs discussion. Bill suggested "The > >> > Calendar could reasonably get split into history-by-year pages to > >> > reduce max size. Or not." My first instinct would be to handle it the > >> > same way the "Recent Meetings" section is handled on the home page, > >> > using a widget that displays a list of pages matching a tag. This way > >> > the calendar page could have either a single widget or perhaps one per > >> > year, while each meeting then gets its own page. > >> > > >> > As for using Wikispaces itself, you can create a new page by: > >> > -typing in the URL where you would like it to be; it'll prompt you to > >> > create a new page; > >> > -create a link to the new page, then click on the link; > >> > -Select the "Pages and Files" menu option, and then click the new page > >> > button. > >> > > >> > In the upper right you'll find a Help link on every page, which will > >> > take you to extensive documentation on how to use Wikispaces. For the > >> > most part, due to the WYSIWYG editor, you won't need it. Occasionally > it > >> > is helpful to modify the wiki markup text. To access that, click the > >> > down arrow next to the save button when editing a page, and choose > >> > "Wikitext Editor." > >> > > >> > -Tom > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Tom Metro > >> > Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA > >> > "Enterprise solutions through open source." > >> > Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Boston-pm mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Boston-pm mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Boston-pm mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm > -- Bill @n1vux [email protected] _______________________________________________ Boston-pm mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm

