Hi Bill,

I already added a new page: Meeting-2013-09-10 for the coming meeting.
Please see following link:
http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/Meeting-2013-09-10

Best,
Maria


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Bill Ricker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Sean, yes, we'll abandon your kwiki, and it looks like wikispaces a viable
> alternative.
>
> I can request PM.ORG move the DNS to refer to the new wikispaces
> moderately quickly, give me a few days before you have to pull the plug.
> What's the timeframe?
>
> Maria, i acknowledge the existing Calendar history scroll is crazy, it
> needed refactoring someday. I'm open to sensible suggestions how to
> reorganize it. Key to me is saving the history, the content. (Moving to a
> new wiki we break any deeplinks anyway, so no value to preserving
> structure.) If Wikispaces has good ways to announce coming events, go ahead
> and use them.
>
> You can add September meeting as a coming event, it will be "Patching and
> Updating a CPAN Module" with Bill and Tom.
> (-: Whether Tom can attend or not, he's co-maintainer :-)
>
> -- bill
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Maria Huang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sean,
>>
>> I converted some pages from http://boston.pm.org/kwiki to
>> http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ already, but not all of them, like Tom
>> said before, how calendar gets handled needs discussion, also I had
>> thought
>> do we need have a section to hold presentation or talk, and encourage
>> members to sign up to this new site?
>>
>> I have been busy recently so I didn't work on it. I hope I can continue
>> working on it soon but I need comments or suggestions what will be next
>> step.
>>
>> I hope I answered your question.
>>
>> Best,
>> Maria
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Sean Quinlan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Just pinging to get an idea if this is moving anywhere. I need to move
>> > boston.pm.org to a new hosting service. I can migrate everything, but
>> > it's one less thing to manage if I don't have to keep kwiki running post
>> > move. :)
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Sean
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for your detailed information, and this can give me a jump
>> start,
>> >> I will take a close look soon.
>> >>
>> >> Maria
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Tom Metro <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Bill Ricker wrote:
>> >> >>> ...Wikispaces page. (I think I have a site setup for Boston.pm
>> there,
>> >> >>> just awaiting content.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> pointer ? that might kick start group use so make it worthwhile.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > Created a year ago. I had intended to do an initial cut of the
>> >> > conversion, but it perpetually sits just out of reach at the bottom
>> of
>> >> > my todo list. I guess now is as good a time as any to try and move it
>> >> > forward.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Maria Huang wrote:
>> >> >> ...I think I can convert pages at home...
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, there's no need to do this as an in-person meeting. That was
>> just
>> >> > an idea to create a meeting topic that would also be productive for
>> the
>> >> > group.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think the reasoning behind not opening up the conversion to
>> volunteers
>> >> > before is that Bill wanted to see how it would look before
>> committing to
>> >> > switching over Boston.pm to use he new service.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> And any deadline for this?
>> >> >
>> >> > None. The sooner it goes done, the sooner Bill can reduce or
>> eliminate
>> >> > his efforts to repair spam and vandalism that occurs with our current
>> >> wiki.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> And where is old wiki site?
>> >> >
>> >> > http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> ...just need some instructions.
>> >> >
>> >> > The first step is to go to:
>> >> > http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/
>> >> >
>> >> > and login (you can use OpenID) or create an account, and then request
>> >> > membership in the Boston.pm wikispace.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've picked a theme, colors, and created a logo. (That's the "Ubuntu
>> >> > Mono" font. I struggled to find something evocative of a terminal
>> font
>> >> > that still looked OK when scaled up to logo size. That aside, I just
>> >> > combined the stock Perl onion with "Boston.pm". You should compare
>> it to
>> >> > the logo I did for the Boston.pm LinkedIn group, as you might like
>> that
>> >> > better.)
>> >> >
>> >> > I converted over the main page. A little bit of intro text, links to
>> >> > pm.org, perl.org, our mailing list page (needs to be created), our
>> jobs
>> >> > posting policy page (needs to be created), and I threw in a Creative
>> >> > Commons licensed picture of the Zakim Bridge for some cliché Boston
>> >> flavor.
>> >> >
>> >> > I added a section titled "Recent Meetings" which will automatically
>> >> > display the 5 most recent wiki pages tagged as "meeting". (It
>> currently
>> >> > shows only page page titles. There are probably things we could do to
>> >> > get it to pull in a page summary or some such.)
>> >> >
>> >> > I created a sample meeting page for our last meeting just so the
>> section
>> >> > above would have something to show. Well need to figure out a
>> template
>> >> > for that, and settle on a page name format.
>> >> >
>> >> > Once the bulk of the data is moved over, time can then be spent
>> revising
>> >> > the look and feel (or perhaps making it look less wiki-like),
>> >> > customizing the menus, and making better use of the embedded widgets
>> >> > they offer, like to embed a Google Calendar.
>> >> >
>> >> > Looking at my notes from a prior conversation with Bill, this is the
>> >> > list of pages that need to be converted (most parenthetical comments
>> >> > from Bill):
>> >> >
>> >> > Home page (first draft done)
>> >> > MITDirections
>> >> > JobPostingPolicy
>> >> > IrcRoom
>> >> > BostonPMCalendar
>> >> > MongerLists
>> >> > Damian2006Mementos (with images, historical)
>> >> > BostonPMHistory (historical; Add entry marking end of kwiki)
>> >> > TechMeetingTopics (idea queue)
>> >> >
>> >> > There is another 4 or 5 less important pages that should also be
>> >> > converted at some point.
>> >> >
>> >> > How the calendar gets handled needs discussion. Bill suggested "The
>> >> > Calendar could reasonably get split into history-by-year pages to
>> >> > reduce max size. Or not." My first instinct would be to handle it the
>> >> > same way the "Recent Meetings" section is handled on the home page,
>> >> > using a widget that displays a list of pages matching a tag. This way
>> >> > the calendar page could have either a single widget or perhaps one
>> per
>> >> > year, while each meeting then gets its own page.
>> >> >
>> >> > As for using Wikispaces itself, you can create a new page by:
>> >> > -typing in the URL where you would like it to be; it'll prompt you to
>> >> > create a new page;
>> >> > -create a link to the new page, then click on the link;
>> >> > -Select the "Pages and Files" menu option, and then click the new
>> page
>> >> > button.
>> >> >
>> >> > In the upper right you'll find a Help link on every page, which will
>> >> > take you to extensive documentation on how to use Wikispaces. For the
>> >> > most part, due to the WYSIWYG editor, you won't need it.
>> Occasionally it
>> >> > is helpful to modify the wiki markup text. To access that, click the
>> >> > down arrow next to the save button when editing a page, and choose
>> >> > "Wikitext Editor."
>> >> >
>> >> > -Tom
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Tom Metro
>> >> > Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA
>> >> > "Enterprise solutions through open source."
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>> >> >
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