I guess I like kiwi too much, I suppose to type kwiki, but I typed kiwiki
instead:)

Maria


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Maria Huang <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sean,
>
> I am glad I can help a little, because I consider me a part of kiwi (Just
> kiding, kiwiki) group or new wikispaces for Boston.pm, and I should thank
> you guys for creating such a wonderful community!
>
> Cheers,
> Maria
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Sean Quinlan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds fine to me. Let me know if there is anything specific you need
>> from me. In the meantime I still have a bunch of sites to relocate over
>> this weekend and even if those all go well (fracking email, joomla, etc), I
>> still probably wouldn't get to boston.pm untill the following weekend at
>> very the earliest.
>>
>> And if the new location isn't ready by the time I need to move it, that
>> isn't terrible. All of these shared hosting accounts are still on basically
>> the same version of perl, so it will _probably_ just work once restored
>> from backup, with maybe a few config/path updates.
>>
>> But regardless, many thanks for all your help!
>>
>> -Cheers,
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Maria Huang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>>
>>> I converted some pages from http://boston.pm.org/kwiki to
>>> http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/ already, but not all of them, like Tom
>>> said before, how calendar gets handled needs discussion, also I had
>>> thought
>>> do we need have a section to hold presentation or talk, and encourage
>>> members to sign up to this new site?
>>>
>>> I have been busy recently so I didn't work on it. I hope I can continue
>>> working on it soon but I need comments or suggestions what will be next
>>> step.
>>>
>>> I hope I answered your question.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Maria
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Sean Quinlan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Just pinging to get an idea if this is moving anywhere. I need to move
>>> > boston.pm.org to a new hosting service. I can migrate everything, but
>>> > it's one less thing to manage if I don't have to keep kwiki running
>>> post
>>> > move. :)
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Sean
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:32 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Thanks for your detailed information, and this can give me a jump
>>> start,
>>> >> I will take a close look soon.
>>> >>
>>> >> Maria
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Tom Metro <[email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Bill Ricker wrote:
>>> >> >>> ...Wikispaces page. (I think I have a site setup for Boston.pm
>>> there,
>>> >> >>> just awaiting content.)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> pointer ? that might kick start group use so make it worthwhile.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Created a year ago. I had intended to do an initial cut of the
>>> >> > conversion, but it perpetually sits just out of reach at the bottom
>>> of
>>> >> > my todo list. I guess now is as good a time as any to try and move
>>> it
>>> >> > forward.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Maria Huang wrote:
>>> >> >> ...I think I can convert pages at home...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yes, there's no need to do this as an in-person meeting. That was
>>> just
>>> >> > an idea to create a meeting topic that would also be productive for
>>> the
>>> >> > group.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I think the reasoning behind not opening up the conversion to
>>> volunteers
>>> >> > before is that Bill wanted to see how it would look before
>>> committing to
>>> >> > switching over Boston.pm to use he new service.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> And any deadline for this?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > None. The sooner it goes done, the sooner Bill can reduce or
>>> eliminate
>>> >> > his efforts to repair spam and vandalism that occurs with our
>>> current
>>> >> wiki.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> And where is old wiki site?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://boston.pm.org/kwiki/
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> ...just need some instructions.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The first step is to go to:
>>> >> > http://boston-pm.wikispaces.com/
>>> >> >
>>> >> > and login (you can use OpenID) or create an account, and then
>>> request
>>> >> > membership in the Boston.pm wikispace.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I've picked a theme, colors, and created a logo. (That's the "Ubuntu
>>> >> > Mono" font. I struggled to find something evocative of a terminal
>>> font
>>> >> > that still looked OK when scaled up to logo size. That aside, I just
>>> >> > combined the stock Perl onion with "Boston.pm". You should compare
>>> it to
>>> >> > the logo I did for the Boston.pm LinkedIn group, as you might like
>>> that
>>> >> > better.)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I converted over the main page. A little bit of intro text, links to
>>> >> > pm.org, perl.org, our mailing list page (needs to be created), our
>>> jobs
>>> >> > posting policy page (needs to be created), and I threw in a Creative
>>> >> > Commons licensed picture of the Zakim Bridge for some cliché Boston
>>> >> flavor.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I added a section titled "Recent Meetings" which will automatically
>>> >> > display the 5 most recent wiki pages tagged as "meeting". (It
>>> currently
>>> >> > shows only page page titles. There are probably things we could do
>>> to
>>> >> > get it to pull in a page summary or some such.)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I created a sample meeting page for our last meeting just so the
>>> section
>>> >> > above would have something to show. Well need to figure out a
>>> template
>>> >> > for that, and settle on a page name format.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Once the bulk of the data is moved over, time can then be spent
>>> revising
>>> >> > the look and feel (or perhaps making it look less wiki-like),
>>> >> > customizing the menus, and making better use of the embedded widgets
>>> >> > they offer, like to embed a Google Calendar.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Looking at my notes from a prior conversation with Bill, this is the
>>> >> > list of pages that need to be converted (most parenthetical comments
>>> >> > from Bill):
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Home page (first draft done)
>>> >> > MITDirections
>>> >> > JobPostingPolicy
>>> >> > IrcRoom
>>> >> > BostonPMCalendar
>>> >> > MongerLists
>>> >> > Damian2006Mementos (with images, historical)
>>> >> > BostonPMHistory (historical; Add entry marking end of kwiki)
>>> >> > TechMeetingTopics (idea queue)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > There is another 4 or 5 less important pages that should also be
>>> >> > converted at some point.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > How the calendar gets handled needs discussion. Bill suggested "The
>>> >> > Calendar could reasonably get split into history-by-year pages to
>>> >> > reduce max size. Or not." My first instinct would be to handle it
>>> the
>>> >> > same way the "Recent Meetings" section is handled on the home page,
>>> >> > using a widget that displays a list of pages matching a tag. This
>>> way
>>> >> > the calendar page could have either a single widget or perhaps one
>>> per
>>> >> > year, while each meeting then gets its own page.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As for using Wikispaces itself, you can create a new page by:
>>> >> > -typing in the URL where you would like it to be; it'll prompt you
>>> to
>>> >> > create a new page;
>>> >> > -create a link to the new page, then click on the link;
>>> >> > -Select the "Pages and Files" menu option, and then click the new
>>> page
>>> >> > button.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > In the upper right you'll find a Help link on every page, which will
>>> >> > take you to extensive documentation on how to use Wikispaces. For
>>> the
>>> >> > most part, due to the WYSIWYG editor, you won't need it.
>>> Occasionally it
>>> >> > is helpful to modify the wiki markup text. To access that, click the
>>> >> > down arrow next to the save button when editing a page, and choose
>>> >> > "Wikitext Editor."
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -Tom
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > Tom Metro
>>> >> > Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA
>>> >> > "Enterprise solutions through open source."
>>> >> > Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/
>>> >> >
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