I like Keysoft the way it is. Josh
> ----- Original Message ----- >From: Gabe Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: 'Braillenote List' <[email protected] >Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:40:30 -0700 >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >Exactly, dos style, meaning with a command prompt. Something, the main >reason why I got a pk, was cause its portable. It's a pound in about 8 >inches wide it wares like a fanny pack would on my waist. It's a great >machine, I don't agree with Andy analogy and I'll explain in that email. >I don't like have a limited set of options via a menu where only they >control what you do. Grant it, in a text typing, dos/UNIX style environment >you still only have the commands they let you use but the menu driven >options are tedious. >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ring >Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 9:31 AM >To: Braillenote List >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >Brenda and others: >I agree, it should be what we want, not what Humanware wants. However, the >point I was making was that Humanware firmly believes that most of its >customer base is not interested in a device that resembles a Windows device, >but one that emulates a Dos style device with a good menuing system. >This, of course, is my opinion, and that's all it is. >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Mueller >Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 5:56 PM >To: Braillenote List >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >Who cares what Human Ware wants? What ever happened to customer service? >Maybe Humanware has a cultural problem that will drag pulse Data down with >them. >Brenda Mueller >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:11:25 -0500 >>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>Ok. >>First of all, as I stated earlier, Humanware wants to keep the product >>as far from the GUI as possible. >>I think there is room for improvement, however, I think that some of us >>expect functionality and robustness that simply isn't there. >>I don't know any sighted people who download 500 emails on their Ipaqs, >>and yet, people on this list do it on their Braillenotes all the time. >>However, it seems to me that in order to handle that kind of traffic, >>one must perform a good deal of maintenance, and frankly, I'd much >>rather use a PC where all I have to do is download and read the mail, I >>don't have to free database space, I don't get error messages such as >>"the operation completed successfully" (which means almost the exact >>opposite of what it says) I simply am not willing to work that hard to >>simply read email. I do feel that cutting and pasting between >>applications in the ordinary way should be supported, all I was trying >>to say is that is you feel that because you paid a huge sum of money >>for your Braillenote that it >should >>have all of the functionality of a laptop, then you were highly >>misinformed and you would have been better served by purchasing a small >>light weight laptop. When I say you here, I mean anyone. >>Remember when our notetakers were notetakers? They served their >>function quite well. Now, our PDAs are expected to perform many new >>duties, and frankly, they do many things quite well. >>Many individuals like the Braillenote family of products because they >>are menu driven but they don't present a Windows interface. >>Many prefer that interface over a PC. Well, fine. Obviously, this is >>one of the biggest selling points for Humanware. >>But, Humanware never told anyone that having a Braillenote was the same >>as having a laptop. >>It isn't. >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul >>Henrichsen >>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:52 PM >>To: Braillenote List >>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>I guess the obvious question is why will it never happen? There is no >>reason why the programmers could not make the pk act as if it were a >>little computer. Just because people classify the bn as a PDA doesn't >>mean it has to be limited by necessity. PDA's, themselves, do things >>differently depending on the price you pay for the unit. >>But again, why will it never happen that the bn cannot act more like a >>pc? >>What aare your reasons for making such a statement? >>What the bn does or doesn't do depends on what PDI decides is important >>to implement. >>If older braille units had a way to dial numbers, why doesn't the bn >>have this feature? Easy. PDI decided it wasn't important or a feature >>that many folks would use. >>Why can't we click on a url within email or copy an address from an >>email easier? Who knows. But there is no reason other than memory >>limitations that these features and many others could not be >>implemented if PDI thought they were necessary. >>Why not? >>? >>At 7/12/2005, you wrote: >>>This isn't a regular computer! >>>It is a PDA, and all PDA's suffer from limitations that do not show up >>>in a PC. >>>Sure, the product should be improved, all products should. However, >if >>>you expect the Braillenote or any other PDA to behave precisely like a >>>PC, it will never happen. >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:14 AM >>>To: 'Braillenote List' >>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>And I agree with you and I feel the same. But instead of improving the >>>products they got, they make a new one and rave about it being the >best >>>thing since slaced bread and leave us pk users in the dust. >>>Sounds like a company we all know and love -----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole >>>Torcolini >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:09 AM >>>To: Braillenote List >>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>> I have also noticed in general, not only in email, the block >>>commands menu does not work in places that a regular computer would >>>allow you >to >>>paste things. Two examples are the find and replace and creating >files >>>and >>>folders. I know there are more, but I can't think of them at this >>>moment. >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Kathy Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:27 AM >>>Subject: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>> There are some truly annoying features and lack there of with the >>>> Keysoft email software. The awkward way one must handle adding an >>>> address to the address book is prehistoric.It is probably the number >>>> one reason I won't be using my new toy for Email as soon as I get my >>>> laptop back. While it's fun and fast, it's a pain in the neck to >>have >>>> to cut and paste from one operation to another just to get the >>address >>>out >>>of a message. >>>> The next most bothersome problem is not being able to click on an >>URL >>>> within an email message. This is truly annoying because while I was >>>> able to use edit commands to hear I was cutting the url, when I got >>to >>>> the internet area to enter it for my url selection, it had >>disappeared >>>> from the clipboard. Makes it a pretty expensive toy when you can't >>use >>>> it for the obvious. >>>> As someone else mentioned, the lack of phone dialing is surprising >>>> since it was a standard feature on both the Braillemate and >>Transtype >>>> for over a dozen years already. Where was Humanware when that >>standard >>>> was being developed I don't imagine anyone specificly asked them for >>a >>>> keyboard either, but they figured out it was expected. >>>> ___ >>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
