So are you saying that we should wait to order m-powers because one of the usb ports may not work right?
Josh > ----- Original Message ----- >From: Stanley Littrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[email protected] >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:02:20 -0700 >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >While I truly understand the need for the braille note to have >increased functionality, it is important to take note of the fact >that Humanware is the result of the joining of PulseData and >Visuaid. If you follow business field in any way shape or form, it >doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize that when companies join >forces there are growing pains. In other words, people have to learn >how to play well with others on the playground. We tend to want >everything now.For example, there was a clammer on this list for >keysoft6.1 to be released, when it was, people were complaining about >the bugs. I suspect that when the mpower is released for >transplanting purposes, there will be people that will complain about >the way things have been implemented. If the only information was >based on what I read on this list, I would have twice about buying a >braille note. Even if I was a new customer, based on many of the >threds I see on this list, I would think twice. I like my Braille >Note. Remember, there is a price for being an early adapter. >Regards, StanAt 02:50 PM 7/13/2005, you wrote: >>You state that the bn isn't the same as a laptop. Right now, I agree >>with you. But again, why not? My wife has an ipak and doesn't even >>browse the web with it much less download email. But is it capable >>of downloading over 500 email as we must often do on the bn? I don't >>know. I bought my bn because of the braille display. If I had not >>been interested in a braille display, I most certainly would have >>bought a laptop. I suppose I could have bought a laptop and velcroed >>a brailliant to the front of it, but the brailliant wasn't out at >>the time. I suppose now-a-days, that would be a good alternative for >>those wanting refreshable braille as I did. >>Interestingly, the new MPower seems to be able to download any >>number of email messages according to beta testers on this list; so >>I wonder if this is processor related? I would think that if the >>email program were rewritten not using the database method it >>currently uses that one could probably download unlimited amounts of email. >>The problem could be a database or perhaps a memory issue. I don't know. >>Can the braille sense or the packmate download unlimited email >>messages? I don't know as I don't have either of these devices. >>But I believe that the bn does have the capability of performing >>like a laptop even with the proprietary interface that PDI has >>chosen to use. We will probably see more and more functionality if >>and whenever the SDK comes out. >>I think that this will be partly due to the faster processor and >>greater memory available in the MPower. >>Jonathan promises some interesting features coming just because of >>the faster processor, and I suspect, because of the greater amount >>of system memory as well. >>When I bought my bn a year and a half ago, I didn't think it would >>perform like a laptop, but suspected that over time, it might come close. >>Last week, I was at the ACB convention. I had no other way to get my >>email but through the bn no matter how many messages there were on a >>daily basis. Sure. I would have rather been sitting at my pc >>downloading 500 email without a problem, but I didn't have that luxury.. >>What the bn can and can't do depends on the hardware and the >>capability of the PDI programmers. I believe that the new MPower >>will probably make it possible for the bn to come closer to >>performing like a laptop in many ways. >>I believe that if the current email program were rewritten that we >>would probably see a better program with regard to downloading and >>manipulating email. >>At 7/13/2005, you wrote: >>>Ok. >>>First of all, as I stated earlier, Humanware wants to keep the product >>>as far from the GUI as possible. >>>I think there is room for improvement, however, I think that some of us >>>expect functionality and robustness that simply isn't there. >>>I don't know any sighted people who download 500 emails on their Ipaqs, >>>and yet, people on this list do it on their Braillenotes all the time. >>>However, it seems to me that in order to handle that kind of traffic, >>>one must perform a good deal of maintenance, and frankly, I'd much >>>rather use a PC where all I have to do is download and read the mail, I >>>don't have to free database space, I don't get error messages such as >>>"the operation completed successfully" (which means almost the exact >>>opposite of what it says) >>>I simply am not willing to work that hard to simply read email. I do >>>feel that cutting and pasting between applications in the ordinary way >>>should be supported, all I was trying to say is that is you feel that >>>because you paid a huge sum of money for your Braillenote that it should >>>have all of the functionality of a laptop, then you were highly >>>misinformed and you would have been better served by purchasing a small >>>light weight laptop. When I say you here, I mean anyone. >>>Remember when our notetakers were notetakers? They served their >>>function quite well. Now, our PDAs are expected to perform many new >>>duties, and frankly, they do many things quite well. >>>Many individuals like the Braillenote family of products because they >>>are menu driven but they don't present a Windows interface. >>>Many prefer that interface over a PC. Well, fine. Obviously, this is >>>one of the biggest selling points for Humanware. >>>But, Humanware never told anyone that having a Braillenote was the same >>>as having a laptop. >>>It isn't. >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul >>>Henrichsen >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:52 PM >>>To: Braillenote List >>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>I guess the obvious question is why will it never happen? There is no >>>reason why the programmers could not make the pk act as if it were a >>>little >>>computer. Just because people classify the bn as a PDA doesn't mean it >>>has >>>to be limited by necessity. PDA's, themselves, do things differently >>>depending on the price you pay for the unit. >>>But again, why will it never happen that the bn cannot act more like a >>>pc? >>>What aare your reasons for making such a statement? >>>What the bn does or doesn't do depends on what PDI decides is important >>>to >>>implement. >>>If older braille units had a way to dial numbers, why doesn't the bn >>>have >>>this feature? Easy. PDI decided it wasn't important or a feature that >>>many >>>folks would use. >>>Why can't we click on a url within email or copy an address from an >>>email >>>easier? Who knows. But there is no reason other than memory limitations >>>that these features and many others could not be implemented if PDI >>>thought >>>they were necessary. >>>Why not? >>>? >>>At 7/12/2005, you wrote: >>>>This isn't a regular computer! >>>>It is a PDA, and all PDA's suffer from limitations that do not show up >>>>in a PC. >>>>Sure, the product should be improved, all products should. However, if >>>>you expect the Braillenote or any other PDA to behave precisely like a >>>>PC, it will never happen. >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:14 AM >>>>To: 'Braillenote List' >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>>And I agree with you and I feel the same. But instead of improving the >>>>products they got, they make a new one and rave about it being the best >>>>thing since slaced bread and leave us pk users in the dust. >>>>Sounds like a company we all know and love >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole >>>>Torcolini >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:09 AM >>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>> I have also noticed in general, not only in email, the block >>>>commands >>>>menu does not work in places that a regular computer would allow you to >>>>paste things. Two examples are the find and replace and creating files >>>>and >>>>folders. I know there are more, but I can't think of them at this >>>>moment. >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Kathy Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:27 AM >>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>>> There are some truly annoying features and lack there of with the >>>>> Keysoft email software. The awkward way one must handle adding an >>>>> address to the address book is prehistoric.It is probably the number >>>>> one reason I won't be using my new toy for Email as soon as I get my >>>>> laptop back. While it's fun and fast, it's a pain in the neck to >>>have >>>>> to cut and paste from one operation to another just to get the >>>address >>>>out >>>>of a message. >>>>> The next most bothersome problem is not being able to click on an >>>URL >>>>> within an email message. This is truly annoying because while I was >>>>> able to use edit commands to hear I was cutting the url, when I got >>>to >>>>> the internet area to enter it for my url selection, it had >>>disappeared >>>>> from the clipboard. Makes it a pretty expensive toy when you can't >>>use >>>>> it for the obvious. >>>>> As someone else mentioned, the lack of phone dialing is surprising >>>>> since it was a standard feature on both the Braillemate and >>>Transtype >>>>> for over a dozen years already. Where was Humanware when that >>>standard >>>>> was being developed I don't imagine anyone specificly asked them for >>>a >>>>> keyboard either, but they figured out it was expected. >>>>> ___ >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
