Hi Karen,
It is great when we can help out friends.  I'm so glad that you were able
tohelp her get a Braillenote.
Stacey and Amigo

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy


> I attended the NFB Convention in Louisville.  On Saturday afternoon of
> Convention Week, there was a meeting to discuss strengths and weaknesses
of
> the various notetakers on the market.  I won't go in to all that was said,
> but in my opinion, when the end of the meeting was reached, the conclusion
> was that the BrailleNote was the most stable of the three notetakers
> discussed and I can tell you that if I didn't own a notetaker and if I was
> in the market for one, I would have chosen the BrailleNote as a result of
> that discussion.
>
> I posted a note a few weeks ago asking for folks from the list or from
> HumanWare to give me information on BrailleNotes for sale or refurbished
or
> demonstration models for a friend of mine.  I am happy to say that I got
> wonderful response from both list members and HumanWare and as a result of
> this, I was able to buy my friend a demonstration BrailleNote at the
> Convention.  She cried when she heard the news.  What I'm trying to say is
> that there are folks who can't afford a unit and want one so badly and my
> being able to help my friend was one of the high moments in my life.  Yes,
> she will pay me back, but she's on cloud 9 waiting for her unit, which
will
> probably be in her hands next week.
>
> Karen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:28 PM
> Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy
>
>
> Hello Brenda, you might like if you have time to go back through the
> archives and find the hundreds of messages asking for USB, streaming,
> better and faster e-mail, a faster processor, voice recording, more
> storage... And it was as a result of that feedback that we delivered
> BrailleNote mPower. So no it isn't about what HumanWare wants, it is about
> what customers want, and we're delighted to have delivered. We're also
> delighted to have delivered a package that allows our existing loyal user
> base to take advantage of these new features. Of course our work is never
> done, and we're always keen to implement even greater functionality as a
> result of user input. So in my view there is ample demonstrable proof that
> our culture is very customer focussed, and we always strive to make sure
> that continues to be the case. I've met many hundreds of people over the
> last three weeks here in the USA who seem to think we got it right, and
> we'll keep working to satisfy as many people as we can.
>
> Jonathan Mosen
> BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
> HumanWare
>
> DDI: +64-3-373-6192
> Fax:  +64-3-384 4933
> Mobile: +64-21 466 736
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.humanware.com
>
>
>
> Brenda Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 13/07/2005 03:56 p.m.
> Please respond to
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> To
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> Subject
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>
> Who cares what Human Ware wants?  What ever happened to customer service?
> Maybe Humanware has a cultural problem that will drag pulse Data down with
> them.
>
> Brenda Mueller
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Richard Ring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:11:25 -0500
> >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy
>
> >Ok.
> >First of all, as I stated earlier, Humanware wants to keep the product
> >as far from the GUI as possible.
> >I think there is room for improvement, however, I think that some of us
> >expect functionality and robustness that simply isn't there.
> >I don't know any sighted people who download 500 emails on their Ipaqs,
> >and yet, people on this list do it on their Braillenotes all the time.
> >However, it seems to me that in order to handle that kind of traffic,
> >one must perform a good deal of maintenance, and frankly, I'd much
> >rather use a PC where all I have to do is download and read the mail, I
> >don't have to free database space, I don't get error messages such as
> >"the operation completed successfully" (which means almost the exact
> >opposite of what it says)
> >I simply am not willing to work that hard to simply read email.  I do
> >feel that cutting and pasting between applications in the ordinary way
> >should be supported, all I was trying to say is that is you feel that
> >because you paid a huge sum of money for your Braillenote that it should
> >have all of the functionality of a laptop, then you were highly
> >misinformed and you would have been better served by purchasing a small
> >light weight laptop.  When I say you here, I mean anyone.
> >Remember when our notetakers were notetakers?  They served their
> >function quite well.  Now, our PDAs are expected to perform many new
> >duties, and frankly, they do many things quite well.
> >Many individuals like the Braillenote family of products because they
> >are menu driven but they don't present a Windows interface.
> >Many prefer that interface over a PC.  Well, fine.  Obviously, this is
> >one of the biggest selling points for Humanware.
> >But, Humanware never told anyone that having a Braillenote was the same
> >as having a laptop.
> >It isn't.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
> >Henrichsen
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:52 PM
> >To: Braillenote List
> >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy
>
>
> >I guess the obvious question is why will it never happen? There is no
> >reason why the programmers could not make the pk act as if it were a
> >little
> >computer. Just because people classify the bn as a PDA doesn't mean it
> >has
> >to be limited by necessity. PDA's, themselves, do things differently
> >depending on the price you pay for the unit.
> >But again, why will it never happen that the bn cannot act more like a
> >pc?
> >What aare your reasons for making such a statement?
> >What the bn does or doesn't do depends on what PDI decides is important
> >to
> >implement.
> >If older braille units had a way to dial numbers, why doesn't the bn
> >have
> >this feature? Easy. PDI decided it wasn't important or a feature that
> >many
> >folks would use.
> >Why can't we click on a url within email or copy an address from an
> >email
> >easier? Who knows. But there is no reason other than memory limitations
> >that these features and many others could not be implemented if PDI
> >thought
> >they were necessary.
> >Why not?
> >?
> >At 7/12/2005, you wrote:
>
> >>This isn't a regular computer!
> >>It is a PDA, and all PDA's suffer from limitations that do not show up
> >>in a PC.
> >>Sure, the product should be improved, all products should.  However, if
> >>you expect the Braillenote or any other PDA to behave precisely like a
> >>PC, it will never happen.
>
>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:14 AM
> >>To: 'Braillenote List'
> >>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy
>
>
> >>And I agree with you and I feel the same. But instead of improving the
> >>products they got, they make a new one and rave about it being the best
> >>thing since slaced bread and leave us pk users in the dust.
> >>Sounds like a company we all know and love
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole
> >>Torcolini
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:09 AM
> >>To: Braillenote List
> >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy
>
> >>     I have also noticed in general, not only in email, the block
> >>commands
> >>menu does not work in places that a regular computer would allow you to
> >>paste things.  Two examples are the find and replace and creating files
> >>and
> >>folders.  I know there are more, but I can't think of them at this
> >>moment.
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Kathy Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:27 AM
> >>Subject: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy
>
>
> >>> There are some truly annoying features and lack there of with the
> >>> Keysoft email software. The awkward way one must handle adding an
> >>> address to the address book is prehistoric.It is probably the number
> >>> one reason I won't be using my new toy for Email as soon as I get my
> >>> laptop back. While it's fun and fast, it's a pain in the neck to
> >have
> >>> to cut and paste from one operation to another just to get the
> >address
> >>out
> >>of a message.
>
> >>> The next most bothersome problem is not being able to click on an
> >URL
> >>> within an email message. This is truly annoying because while I was
> >>> able to use edit commands to hear I was cutting the url, when I got
> >to
>
> >>> the internet area to enter it for my url selection, it had
> >disappeared
>
> >>> from the clipboard. Makes it a pretty expensive toy when you can't
> >use
>
> >>> it for the obvious.
>
> >>> As someone else mentioned, the lack of phone dialing is surprising
> >>> since it was a standard feature on both the Braillemate and
> >Transtype
> >>> for over a dozen years already. Where was Humanware when that
> >standard
>
> >>> was being developed I don't imagine anyone specificly asked them for
> >a
>
> >>> keyboard either, but they figured out it was expected.
>
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