I agree with you. Oh, by the way, Happy Birthday. I always preferred pie on my birthday. Never told Mom, though. She tried her best.
Brenda Mueller > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "meearls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:42:00 -0700 >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >I don't have to tell anyone on this list my feelings about the file manager. >I have, over the last year, albeit extremely gruggingly learned to get my >way around it without dropping down in a stroke and I do find with the >Brailler Style keyboard that for some reason it is much easier to use. >But I would like to see the following improvements to the file manager. >1. either use file manager or folder manager not both and eliminate the >dirrectory system or change the wording altogether. >2. Allow people to open files they have selected from the file manager. >3. If the folder manager is retained, make a setting in which entire folders >can be moved. >That is all I have asked but just simplify it a bit and you would have an >amazing product. >Ok let me borrow whomever's rock and crawl under it and eat birthday cake. >Mary Ellen Earls >Remember! Today is the Tomorrow you thought about yesterday. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 4:23 PM >Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >> Richard. I hardly think you are in the minority for wanting a better file >> manager<grin>. I remember complaining early on a year and a half ago that >> there was no move folder function in the bn. Only PDI knows why they are >> so slow at implementing new features for the bn. I gues those 50 >> developers they have now have been developing the pk and then the >> MPower<grin>. Maybe now, we will see faster keysoft upgrades now that the >> hardware has been brought up to speed. >> I hope so. >> At 7/13/2005, you wrote: >>>What you have is a suite of programs that you can use. >>>It would be like having a PC that only ran Microsoft Office. >>>That's what you have. >>>And currently, that is what you get. >>>I am not justifying it, I am merely pointing out that this is what >>>Humanware wants to sell. >>>Perhaps >>>There should be other options, but whatever improvements are made, they >>>will most likely reflect the needs and requests of the majority. >>>I have always wanted a better file manager, but I am in the minority, >>>and it isn't going to happen. >>>Frankly, the majority of Braillenote users don't even know what telnet >>>is. >>>If you doubt this, stay on the list long enough and see what kinds of >>>questions are asked over and over and over again. >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega >>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:21 AM >>>To: 'Braillenote List' >>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>But there is no reason to say, due to the processor we have and the >>>memory >>>we have to say that we can't have something, everything that we are >>>asking >>>for is possible technically. Hell, even my old 33mhz notetaker had a >>>modem >>>with a email program. So come on, even with the power of windows ce to >>>back >>>up our requests, there is no reason why if the company wanted to devote >>>resources to it we could get a terminal app so we may log into an ssh >>>session or telnet or what ever. >>>And my question was never answered, why do we only have access to ping, >>>but >>>netstat is in the windows directory also but we can't use it? >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard >>>Ring >>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:11 AM >>>To: Braillenote List >>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>Ok. >>>First of all, as I stated earlier, Humanware wants to keep the product >>>as >>>far from the GUI as possible. >>>I think there is room for improvement, however, I think that some of us >>>expect functionality and robustness that simply isn't there. >>>I don't know any sighted people who download 500 emails on their Ipaqs, >>>and >>>yet, people on this list do it on their Braillenotes all the time. >>>However, it seems to me that in order to handle that kind of traffic, >>>one >>>must perform a good deal of maintenance, and frankly, I'd much rather >>>use a >>>PC where all I have to do is download and read the mail, I don't have to >>>free database space, I don't get error messages such as "the operation >>>completed successfully" (which means almost the exact >>>opposite of what it says) >>>I simply am not willing to work that hard to simply read email. I do >>>feel >>>that cutting and pasting between applications in the ordinary way should >>>be >>>supported, all I was trying to say is that is you feel that because you >>>paid >>>a huge sum of money for your Braillenote that it should have all of the >>>functionality of a laptop, then you were highly misinformed and you >>>would >>>have been better served by purchasing a small light weight laptop. When >>>I >>>say you here, I mean anyone. >>>Remember when our notetakers were notetakers? They served their >>>function >>>quite well. Now, our PDAs are expected to perform many new duties, and >>>frankly, they do many things quite well. >>>Many individuals like the Braillenote family of products because they >>>are >>>menu driven but they don't present a Windows interface. >>>Many prefer that interface over a PC. Well, fine. Obviously, this is >>>one >>>of the biggest selling points for Humanware. >>>But, Humanware never told anyone that having a Braillenote was the same >>>as >>>having a laptop. >>>It isn't. >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul >>>Henrichsen >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:52 PM >>>To: Braillenote List >>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>I guess the obvious question is why will it never happen? There is no >>>reason >>>why the programmers could not make the pk act as if it were a little >>>computer. Just because people classify the bn as a PDA doesn't mean it >>>has >>>to be limited by necessity. PDA's, themselves, do things differently >>>depending on the price you pay for the unit. >>>But again, why will it never happen that the bn cannot act more like a >>>pc? >>>What aare your reasons for making such a statement? >>>What the bn does or doesn't do depends on what PDI decides is important >>>to >>>implement. >>>If older braille units had a way to dial numbers, why doesn't the bn >>>have >>>this feature? Easy. PDI decided it wasn't important or a feature that >>>many >>>folks would use. >>>Why can't we click on a url within email or copy an address from an >>>email >>>easier? Who knows. But there is no reason other than memory limitations >>>that >>>these features and many others could not be implemented if PDI thought >>>they >>>were necessary. >>>Why not? >>>? >>>At 7/12/2005, you wrote: >>>>This isn't a regular computer! >>>>It is a PDA, and all PDA's suffer from limitations that do not show up >>>>in a PC. >>>>Sure, the product should be improved, all products should. However, if >>>>you expect the Braillenote or any other PDA to behave precisely like a >>>>PC, it will never happen. >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:14 AM >>>>To: 'Braillenote List' >>>>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>>And I agree with you and I feel the same. But instead of improving the >>>>products they got, they make a new one and rave about it being the best >>>>thing since slaced bread and leave us pk users in the dust. >>>>Sounds like a company we all know and love -----Original Message----- >>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nicole >>>>Torcolini >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:09 AM >>>>To: Braillenote List >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>> I have also noticed in general, not only in email, the block >>>>commands menu does not work in places that a regular computer would >>>>allow you to paste things. Two examples are the find and replace and >>>>creating files and folders. I know there are more, but I can't think >>>>of them at this moment. >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Kathy Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 4:27 AM >>>>Subject: [Braillenote] Doesn't click, Doesn't Copy >>>>> There are some truly annoying features and lack there of with the >>>>> Keysoft email software. The awkward way one must handle adding an >>>>> address to the address book is prehistoric.It is probably the number >>>>> one reason I won't be using my new toy for Email as soon as I get my >>>>> laptop back. While it's fun and fast, it's a pain in the neck to >>>have >>>>> to cut and paste from one operation to another just to get the >>>address >>>>out >>>>of a message. >>>>> The next most bothersome problem is not being able to click on an >>>URL >>>>> within an email message. This is truly annoying because while I was >>>>> able to use edit commands to hear I was cutting the url, when I got >>>to >>>>> the internet area to enter it for my url selection, it had >>>disappeared >>>>> from the clipboard. Makes it a pretty expensive toy when you can't >>>use >>>>> it for the obvious. >>>>> As someone else mentioned, the lack of phone dialing is surprising >>>>> since it was a standard feature on both the Braillemate and >>>Transtype >>>>> for over a dozen years already. Where was Humanware when that >>>standard >>>>> was being developed I don't imagine anyone specificly asked them for >>>a >>>>> keyboard either, but they figured out it was expected. >>>>> ___ >>>>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >> ___ >> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
