One suggestion I would make.
If you're truly serious about considering designing this device,
remember that you're not the only person in the world.  Meaning, that
you can't simply design a device that you'll like, in order for the
product to be successful, you will have to be willing to receive input
from many different blind people with varying skill levels.
Some will want  Braille, some won't.  
 Consider the debate that periodically turns up on this list  concerning
nearly anything.
Finally, remember that the most costly part of such a device will be the
Braille cells.
Until a truly inexpensive method for creating refreshable Braille cells
exists, anything you design will still cost a bundle.
Good luck!

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Parks
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:27 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] sorry...


Ms.  Cranston:

The comment about QT users was just meant to convey my thought 
that Braille displays and Braille keyboards go together.  I know 
that sounds "Braille-ist", but I have used a BNBT for four years, 
ever since Christmas of seventh grade.  I just got a BNMPBT a few 
weeks ago, and use its bluetooth to connect to my friend's 
bluetooth keyboard, a design that can be used.  That keyboard is 
really neat--it folds, and even when unfolded for use it is about 
the size of the top of a PK.  It has only the letters, plus 
SPACE, two FUNCTION's, CTRL, ALT, and arrow keys.  There are 
ESCAPE and TAB as well.  Numbers are formed by pressing (I think) 
left FUNCTION+Q-P, and keyboard shortcuts still work.  This would 
be a perfect size.



Anyway, I know I've been swayed by never using QT devices; I can 
type very poorly on them.  It is possible to shrink a QT, 
however, and, again, I didn't mean anything by that comment.

Have a great day,
Alex

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sarah Cranston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:09:04 -0600
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] sorry...

>This is going to be one of those "me too" messages everybody 
hates.  <Grin>  I felt pretty bad that Alex felt he needed to 
apologize so profusely for dreaming a dream.  In fact, I do have 
a BookPort, I do use it's Braille input mode, and can easily see 
how this could be incorporated into a device with a Braille 
display.  I'm also intrigued by the concept of two rows of 
Braille, I've never seen anything with more than one long line of 
refreshable Braille cells.

>While there are certainly those who would find such a device 
difficult or impossible to use, because of physical disabilities 
or a host of other reasons, there are also many, many people who 
could greatly benefit from this invention.

>I would, however, like to address a point which did bother me 
about the original description.  When speaking of a QT BN, Alex 
said something to the effect that a Braille reader should be able 
to write Braille as well.  I happen to be in a particular group 
of people who were taught both Braille and typing at an extremely 
young age.  While Braille comes as naturally for me as breathing, 
I really do prefer to type when writing more than a sentence or 
two, it's just more comfortable for me.  This is why I got my 
BNQT over three years ago, and would choose it over any other 
Braille device on the market.  The keyboard is a fully functional 
QWERTY keyboard, yet it takes up around one quarter of the space 
a full-sized keyboard does.  I don't think I would want anything 
smaller.
>Just some thoughts from a satisfied BNQT user who still has an 
imagination.

>Sarah


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
Rhonda Clark
>Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:51 AM
>To: Braillenote List
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] sorry...


>Jonathan, I'm really glad you wrote that message.  I, for one,
>and tired of the put downs of ideas on this list.  I found the
>message productive, and fascinating.

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:42:52 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] sorry...

>>Hi Alex, I for one am very grateful for the thought and time you
>took in
>>articulating your ideas.  You are a custoemr and quite entitled
>to tell us
>>how we can better meet your needs.  There's nothing to apologise
>for, your
>>message was one of the most fascinating on this list in a long
>time.  Keep
>>up the creative thinking.

>>Jonathan Mosen
>>BrailleNote Product Marketing Manager
>>HumanWare

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