Hi Joseph and All,

Well, I don't have a BookShare account yet, as I haven't gotten around to
doing the paperwork to prove blindness.  So, I hadn't done a lot with the
downloading of files.  However, in the few times I have tried, I've most
often only gotten one file before getting some sort of error message.  But,
anyway, here is what happened when I tried tonight.

I first tried with the PK.  I went to the Humanware site and found a file to
download, and then checked the information mode info before continuing.  It
told me program memory used 12,892K, allocated 20,084K.  Storage memory used
1976K, allocated 20,080K.  Total ram 40164K.  Now, with this being the PK, I
downloaded a real small file, the MP3 introduction to KeySoft 7; and, after
I did this, the only value of those above that changed was the program
memory used, changing to 12,948K.  All the others stayed the same as before,
including the storage memory used and the total ram.

I then tried to download the conclusion MP3 for KeySoft 7.  And, it did tell
me that the download was complete, followed by the words unknown URL.  Then,
when once again going into the support information mode, the program memory
used was the only thing that had changed, going to 12,944K.  And, yes both
those files, the 535K and the 326K respectively, played just fine on my PK.

I next got out my mPower and first tried the same two downloads.  So, before
I downloaded the introduction file, I was told that the program memory used
was 8,024K, and the amount allocated was 32,064K.  I was further told that
the storage memory used was 1,336K, while the amount allocated was 32,064K.
The total ram was 64,128K.  When the download of the introduction file had
completed, once again, the program memory used was the only thing that had
changed, changing to 8,040K.

Then, once again when downloading the conclusion MP3 file, I got those same
two messages, that the download was complete, and then the unknown URL.
And, once again, the program memory was the only thing that had changed,
changing to 8,028K.

Then, after I got that unknown URL message and checked the information, I
couldn't do a thing but go back to another page.  So, this time, I decided
to download the Bluetooth MP3.  The download did start, but then I got the
failed to download message.  And, when checking the support information,
this time, both the program memory used, as well as the storage memory used
had changed, changing to 8,080K and 1,724K respectively.

But, this time after checking the support information, I was put back on the
same page where I had just been downloading.  So, I decided to try and
download the fractions MP3; but, this time, I got both the failed to
download message, as well as the unknown URL one.  And, once again, both the
program memory used and the storage memory used had changed, changing to
8,128K and 2,112K respectively.

I didn't try to download anymore files, just exited KeyWeb.  Once again, as
with the PK, the introduction and conclusion files played just fine on my
mPower.  As for the Bluetooth and fractions files, only part of each of
those files played, with each starting at the beginning but not finishing.
I got 376K of the Bluetooth file and 384K of the fractions one.  I performed 
the downloads on both units using my wireless connection, did a regular 
reset on each unit before I inserted the wireless card, and the mPower I 
have isn't a transplant unit.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: the failing download issue, RE: [Braillenote] Bookshare


Dear list,

This is Joseph. A proof can be found if you go to the Support information
mode. Go to Options menu and press space with i. Press space with I again.
This will give you the state of RAM. When you monitor this value overtime,
you'll notice that the memory usage has increased. This is because KeySoft
and other programs use RAM for temporary storage. My statement about RAM
shorage is that when IE (KeyWeb) downloads any file, it'll first save it on
the temporary loacaiotn, which happens to be RAM (actually RAM stands for
Random-Access Memory. Read-Only Memory, or ROM, is a memory where you cannot
edit the information that is in there.). After it is saved, then it will
copy it to the desired loaciton. My hypothesis is this: Because any file
that are downloaded uses RAM (part of KeySoft System Disk) to store
temporary copy, and there happens to be a lot of programs which uses the
same memory space, then it might cause it to truncate. My guess here is that
after you download the first file from ANY site e.g. Bookshare, and if the
memory usage has been signifacantly increased, then this might cause the
second, or third file to be broken (it might fail to download). I would like
to suggest that: for folks who are experiencing this problem would folow
this instructions:
1. Before downloading the file, go to support information mode and press
space with I to check the memory value.
2. Download the file as you normally would.
3. Now, go back to support information mode and press space with I again.
The memory value might have increased.
4. Download the sccond file. It might display the failure message.
5. After this happens, go to support information mode for the third time.
Press space with i. The memory value might have increased signifacantly
(make sure you read the value carefully, especially storage value).

I would like to apologize if my post has become long. I would like to see
this problem be solved in the future.



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