Mary,
This is Joseph. This is nothing to do with Bookshare. HumanWare has
indicated that it might be related to memory issue or something. 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary Ellen
Earls
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:02 AM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: Re: the failing download issue, RE: [Braillenote] Bookshare

I think this bookshare thing is on their end. I couldn't download a book I
wanted yesterday on the mpower voice note and quite honestly had downloaded
several books over the past 3 monthswithout any problem. so I have a feeling
it might be a problem with the bookshare web site itself.
I wasn't even going to say anything about it because I was going to contact
Peter Cially on Monday about my particular problem.
Mary Ellen Earls
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicky Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: the failing download issue, RE: [Braillenote] Bookshare


> Hi Joseph and All,
>
> Well, I don't have a BookShare account yet, as I haven't gotten around 
> to doing the paperwork to prove blindness.  So, I hadn't done a lot 
> with the downloading of files.  However, in the few times I have 
> tried, I've most often only gotten one file before getting some sort of
error message.
> But,
> anyway, here is what happened when I tried tonight.
>
> I first tried with the PK.  I went to the Humanware site and found a 
> file to download, and then checked the information mode info before 
> continuing.
> It
> told me program memory used 12,892K, allocated 20,084K.  Storage 
> memory used 1976K, allocated 20,080K.  Total ram 40164K.  Now, with 
> this being the PK, I downloaded a real small file, the MP3 
> introduction to KeySoft 7; and, after I did this, the only value of 
> those above that changed was the program memory used, changing to 
> 12,948K.  All the others stayed the same as before, including the 
> storage memory used and the total ram.
>
> I then tried to download the conclusion MP3 for KeySoft 7.  And, it 
> did tell me that the download was complete, followed by the words 
> unknown URL.
> Then,
> when once again going into the support information mode, the program 
> memory used was the only thing that had changed, going to 12,944K.  
> And, yes both those files, the 535K and the 326K respectively, played 
> just fine on my PK.
>
> I next got out my mPower and first tried the same two downloads.  So, 
> before I downloaded the introduction file, I was told that the program 
> memory used was 8,024K, and the amount allocated was 32,064K.  I was 
> further told that the storage memory used was 1,336K, while the amount 
> allocated was 32,064K.
> The total ram was 64,128K.  When the download of the introduction file 
> had completed, once again, the program memory used was the only thing 
> that had changed, changing to 8,040K.
>
> Then, once again when downloading the conclusion MP3 file, I got those 
> same two messages, that the download was complete, and then the 
> unknown URL.
> And, once again, the program memory was the only thing that had 
> changed, changing to 8,028K.
>
> Then, after I got that unknown URL message and checked the 
> information, I couldn't do a thing but go back to another page.  So, 
> this time, I decided to download the Bluetooth MP3.  The download did 
> start, but then I got the failed to download message.  And, when 
> checking the support information, this time, both the program memory 
> used, as well as the storage memory used had changed, changing to 
> 8,080K and 1,724K respectively.
>
> But, this time after checking the support information, I was put back 
> on the same page where I had just been downloading.  So, I decided to 
> try and download the fractions MP3; but, this time, I got both the 
> failed to download message, as well as the unknown URL one.  And, once 
> again, both the program memory used and the storage memory used had 
> changed, changing to 8,128K and 2,112K respectively.
>
> I didn't try to download anymore files, just exited KeyWeb.  Once 
> again, as with the PK, the introduction and conclusion files played 
> just fine on my mPower.  As for the Bluetooth and fractions files, 
> only part of each of those files played, with each starting at the 
> beginning but not finishing.
> I got 376K of the Bluetooth file and 384K of the fractions one.  I 
> performed the downloads on both units using my wireless connection, 
> did a regular reset on each unit before I inserted the wireless card, 
> and the mPower I have isn't a transplant unit.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joseph Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 2:38 PM
> Subject: RE: the failing download issue, RE: [Braillenote] Bookshare
>
>
> Dear list,
>
> This is Joseph. A proof can be found if you go to the Support 
> information mode. Go to Options menu and press space with i. Press space
with I again.
> This will give you the state of RAM. When you monitor this value 
> overtime, you'll notice that the memory usage has increased. This is 
> because KeySoft and other programs use RAM for temporary storage. My 
> statement about RAM shorage is that when IE (KeyWeb) downloads any 
> file, it'll first save it on the temporary loacaiotn, which happens to 
> be RAM (actually RAM stands for Random-Access Memory. Read-Only 
> Memory, or ROM, is a memory where you cannot edit the information that 
> is in there.). After it is saved, then it will copy it to the desired 
> loaciton. My hypothesis is this: Because any file that are downloaded 
> uses RAM (part of KeySoft System Disk) to store temporary copy, and 
> there happens to be a lot of programs which uses the same memory 
> space, then it might cause it to truncate. My guess here is that after 
> you download the first file from ANY site e.g. Bookshare, and if the 
> memory usage has been signifacantly increased, then this might cause 
> the second, or third file to be broken (it might fail to download). I 
> would like to suggest that: for folks who are experiencing this 
> problem would folow this instructions:
> 1. Before downloading the file, go to support information mode and 
> press space with I to check the memory value.
> 2. Download the file as you normally would.
> 3. Now, go back to support information mode and press space with I again.
> The memory value might have increased.
> 4. Download the sccond file. It might display the failure message.
> 5. After this happens, go to support information mode for the third time.
> Press space with i. The memory value might have increased 
> signifacantly (make sure you read the value carefully, especially storage
value).
>
> I would like to apologize if my post has become long. I would like to 
> see this problem be solved in the future.
>
>
>
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