Yes, I'm using an MP with a dial-up connection. Keyweb _doesn't retain username or password and it doesn't remember where I've been. I'm using a QT, not a BT model.
Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:51 AM Subject: re: [Braillenote] Keyweb and Internet Explorer : Well, that is interesting. Are you using an mPower? Mine always : remembers where I was on a page, and takes me there when I go : back or forward in the history. It also saves automatically, so : until I do a hard reset my username is saved. I have only to : enter my password and hit the login button. I agree that more : info should be given, but you really get used to not having it. : The command, on a BT anyway, to have the cursor on a link without : "clicking" that link is the PREVIOUS thumb key (the one on the : extreme left) held down while you hit a cursor routing key over : the linked text. : : Good luck, and just keep playing with it. It takes some getting : used to, and the acceptance that it will not behave the same nor : be as powerful as IE on a computer. : Alex : : > ----- Original Message ----- : >From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] : >To: "BrailleNote List" <[email protected] : >Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 19:58:07 -0700 : >Subject: [Braillenote] Keyweb and Internet Explorer : : >Dear List, : : >I have been using Keyweb for the past several days because I was : not home : >and I didn't have access to my PC. Most of the time, I surf the : web using : >my PC with Internet Explorer and WindowEyes for my screen reader. : I'm not : >the best web-surfer and I haven't had as much experience with : Keyweb as some : >of you but I have noticed some differences. : : >1. The web pages load faster using Keyweb, but they look totally : alien to : >me. For one thing, the braille displays links, edit boxes, : frames and : >tables buttons and dialog boxes appear differently. I suppose : this must be : >because HumanWare decided to use different symbols and : abbreviations than GW : >Micro does. I suppose people who use the shark have learned yet : another set : >of braille symbols and abbreviations. Although I think Keysoft : is usually : >intuitive, I find Keyweb not to be so intuitive with its symbols : and : >abbreviations. It's too bad there aren't a standard set of : symbols and : >abbreviations for all braille displays. : : >2. I don't know if it's just me, but I have noticed web pages on : the PC : >have more details than web pages on the BN. For example, let's : take the : >www.amazon site. I don't remember seeing a special link for : screen readers : >when I looked at it using the BN, but the link jumped out at me : when I used : >the PC. I also found it harder to search for an item using the : BN than : >using the PC. : : >3. The layout of the web pages seems different. On the BN, the : text goes : >across the line with lots of space between columns. I find this : extra space : >to be annoying. But on the PC, the columns are laid out : vertically and the : >lines are shorter. The BN occasionally gives details about the : web page, : >but WindowEyes always gives details like: "11 tables, x amout of : rows, x : >columns x frames and x headings and x subheadings." It also : tells me when : >I'm starting to look at a new table, but the BN doesn't. Since I : can't tell : >where one table ends and the next begins, I can't jump from one : table to the : >next. : : >4. If a site, like Google, has an edit box, WindowEyes will : automatically : >jump to the edit box but the BN always places me at the top of : the page and : >I have to wade through the links to find the edit box. Also, : when I go back : >and forth between web pages, WindowEyes remembers where I left : off but the : >BN doesn't. : : >5. This difference has been mentioned before, but I can't : understand why it : >exists. I'm referring to the fact that Windows on my PC will : remember my : >username and password when I go to certain web sites but the BN : won't. : >Also, I'm more certain to have trouble typing in my username and : password : >and having the site recognize it when I use the BN. This is : annoying, : >especially when I want to use a "quickcheckout" or "1-click : purchase" at an : >online store. In fact, I couldn't even checkout with one : store--I had to : >phone in my order. But previously, I had been able to set up an : account and : >checkout using my PC. If I had had a PC at my location, I could : have placed : >the order online. : : >6. The BN shows everything in one grade of braille. This is : fine except : >(1) when I'm looking at a URL or email address and (2) when I : write in an : >edit box. I can't even route the cursor to the computereze and : see the URL : >or email address in computer braille like I can when I'm using : Keymail. : >WindowEyes, on the other hand, will always show anything under : the cursor to : >be in computer braille. Is there a way to route the BN's cursor : to an item : >without accessing a link? : : >Can someone explain why Keyweb and the BN behaves differently : from the PC : >and WindowEyes? Does it have to do with the platform, (Windows : CE versus : >Windows XP) and the methods of interpreting the web sites? : : >Thanks for any insight. : : >Terri, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign : AAT9PX, : >California : : : >___ : >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to : >[EMAIL PROTECTED] : >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit : >http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote : : : : ___ : To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit : http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote : : : __________ NOD32 1.1531 (20060511) Information __________ : : This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. : http://www.eset.com : : ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
