Hi, Jim. That's the problem with being on a list<grin>. You read a message from someone and you want to reply to one of their points. I suppose if you could read every message in a given topic then formulate your answers based on all of those topics, that would certainly reduce the number of replies<grin>. I see what you are saying here and agree that as blind folks, we do need something to allow us to manipulate pdf and xls files on the braille note. My take on this is this. I don't mind having pocket excel on my bn, but give me a simple financial program to use while I get up to speed on my spreadsheet knowledge. And if I am one of those who just can't get the hang of a spreadsheet, don't leave me out in the cold with nothing. Give me something that I can use. So, we really need both methods. Some people are happy writing in a notepad type of application. Others want a full bodied word processor with all the bells and whistles. But if I am not very good at computers or using some of the more advanced features of my braille note and all I have is pocket excel for anything financial, as a user, what am I to do?
Paul Henrichsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Aldrich Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:58 PM To: Braillenote List Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next upgrade Paul, I think you could have condensed those fifteen or so messages down to three, goodness! Having said that, I think a totally different aspect of this discussion has been neglected! Like it or not, we must deal with .pdf or .XLS files in some way or at some point! Both of these file types are widely used and we unfortunately must deal with them! I know very little if anything about spreadsheets, yet I've been asked to make braille hard copies of some of our state organization's financial matters. This certainly is a dandy challenge for a person who barely knows how to read a spread sheet to put it into braille in a form that might make sense to someone who understands them. That is a dandy challenge! My newer computer has XL and I can get an idea of the layout of the spreadsheet and maybe make some sense out of what I think I see there. Thanks to XL, I'm able to at least find columns, and specific data within those columns but getting this from my PC to braille and make as much sense and do so efficiently really is a seemingly impossible task! Heaven Forbid I'd need to reenter all the data by hand myself! I use my M-power to braille what I do much of the time. I wish there was a simple, efficient way to interpret the data within the spreadsheet and have it available in hard copy braille very quickly so it could be sent to those who request the information within that spreadsheet. That is my immediate need whether I know what I'm talking about or not. It would be nice to simply read the spreadsheet on my M-power and make some sense of it. Having money management programs or calculators are nice but how much nicer it would be if we could import a spreadsheet and get the information quickly without much effort and a person could take more time to study the data within the spreadsheet rather than spend so much energy trying to figure a way to place it in a format which makes sense to those who understand spreadsheets. Tasks like this make me cringe! I'd rather run away rather than face the task at hand! I truly hate this kind of thing! Is there a way to make this donting task a bit easier and maybe a bit more satisfying? Jim Aldrich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:55 PM Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next upgrade > Hi, Mike. I suppose it is only vitally important for those people where > the > Braille note is their only computer or for those who want their financial > data such as their checking account or credit card balance with them on > the > go. > > > > Paul Henrichsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Garrett > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:19 PM > To: Braillenote List > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next > upgrade > > I suppose it is "picking a nit," but though the suggestion might be a > useful > feature to a lot of people, calling it "vitally important" is more than > hyperbole! > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected] >>Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:28:22 -0400 >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the > next upgrade > >>Hi Rusty, >>This is an excellent suggestion and I agree that it is something > that most >>of us would like to see for our BrailleNotes. >>Virgie and Hoshi >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected] >>Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:36 PM >>Subject: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next > upgrade > > >>> Hi folks, >>> I believe that keysoft NEEDS a financial management component > like >>> Quicken. >>> Most sighted people keep a log of their checks. Many keep a > budget sheet >>> to >>> track expenses and expendatures ETC. > >>> Some one is bound to answer this by saying that there's a > calculator and a >>> database program and that this should be enough. I'm not savi > enough to do >>> the leg work to do the math, go from one to the other. > >>> I hope that some one can harness the power of the bn to create > an >>> application where we can simply and easily enter these figures, > categorize >>> them, automatically perform the calculations to let us know how > much we >>> are >>> spending and saving on a weekly, monthly and yearly basis. >>> It would even be cool if the BN had built in formulas to help us > calculate >>> interest, convert measurements, other simple tasks. > >>> I'm not a math wizzard, I need something to help me do these > things. An >>> economics major a finance expert could probably make a list of > the >>> features >>> we'd need, but I think that if we could just have a BN version > of quicken, >>> we'd be ahead of the game. > >>> I think these things would make our lives much easier. > >>> Thanks for reading! >>> Rusty > > >>> ___ >>> To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>> http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > __________ NOD32 1.1692 (20060804) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ___ > To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit > http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote > > > ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote __________ NOD32 1.1693 (20060805) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit http://list.humanware.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
