Paul,
For now, I just want to be able to read and interpret an XL spreadsheet, and
have the ability to put this into hard copy braille without needing to input
the data again. I'm not all that concerned whether the M-power has pocket
XL or not, I just want to be able to deal with the XL spreadsheet, have it
with me in my M-power to go over in a meeting or have the ability to access
it quickly should I need to do so. I can deal with pdf files rather easily
for the most part with the 7.0 adobe acrobat reader which works well in
Windows XP. I have found ways to convert these to text so am not all that
worried about .pdf. It is the Xl files which I need to master and import
elsewhere so I can read them and put them into hard copy braille if need be.
I don't want to input the data again by hand.
Jim Aldrich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next upgrade
Hi, Jim. That's the problem with being on a list<grin>. You read a message
from someone and you want to reply to one of their points.
I suppose if you could read every message in a given topic then formulate
your answers based on all of those topics, that would certainly reduce the
number of replies<grin>.
I see what you are saying here and agree that as blind folks, we do need
something to allow us to manipulate pdf and xls files on the braille note.
My take on this is this.
I don't mind having pocket excel on my bn, but give me a simple financial
program to use while I get up to speed on my spreadsheet knowledge. And if
I
am one of those who just can't get the hang of a spreadsheet, don't leave
me
out in the cold with nothing. Give me something that I can use.
So, we really need both methods. Some people are happy writing in a
notepad
type of application. Others want a full bodied word processor with all the
bells and whistles.
But if I am not very good at computers or using some of the more advanced
features of my braille note and all I have is pocket excel for anything
financial, as a user, what am I to do?
Paul Henrichsen
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Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:58 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next
upgrade
Paul,
I think you could have condensed those fifteen or so messages down to
three,
goodness!
Having said that, I think a totally different aspect of this discussion
has
been neglected! Like it or not, we must deal with .pdf or .XLS files in
some way or at some point! Both of these file types are widely used and
we
unfortunately must deal with them! I know very little if anything about
spreadsheets, yet I've been asked to make braille hard copies of some of
our
state organization's financial matters. This certainly is a dandy
challenge
for a person who barely knows how to read a spread sheet to put it into
braille in a form that might make sense to someone who understands them.
That is a dandy challenge! My newer computer has XL and I can get an idea
of the layout of the spreadsheet and maybe make some sense out of what I
think I see there. Thanks to XL, I'm able to at least find columns, and
specific data within those columns but getting this from my PC to braille
and make as much sense and do so efficiently really is a seemingly
impossible task! Heaven Forbid I'd need to reenter all the data by hand
myself! I use my M-power to braille what I do much of the time. I wish
there was a simple, efficient way to interpret the data within the
spreadsheet and have it available in hard copy braille very quickly so it
could be sent to those who request the information within that
spreadsheet.
That is my immediate need whether I know what I'm talking about or not.
It
would be nice to simply read the spreadsheet on my M-power and make some
sense of it. Having money management programs or calculators are nice but
how much nicer it would be if we could import a spreadsheet and get the
information quickly without much effort and a person could take more time
to
study the data within the spreadsheet rather than spend so much energy
trying to figure a way to place it in a format which makes sense to those
who understand spreadsheets. Tasks like this make me cringe! I'd rather
run away rather than face the task at hand! I truly hate this kind of
thing! Is there a way to make this donting task a bit easier and maybe a
bit more satisfying?
Jim Aldrich
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Henrichsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next
upgrade
Hi, Mike. I suppose it is only vitally important for those people where
the
Braille note is their only computer or for those who want their financial
data such as their checking account or credit card balance with them on
the
go.
Paul Henrichsen
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Garrett
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:19 PM
To: Braillenote List
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next
upgrade
I suppose it is "picking a nit," but though the suggestion might be a
useful
feature to a lot of people, calling it "vitally important" is more than
hyperbole!
----- Original Message -----
From: "VIRGIE UNDERWOOD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:28:22 -0400
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the
next upgrade
Hi Rusty,
This is an excellent suggestion and I agree that it is something
that most
of us would like to see for our BrailleNotes.
Virgie and Hoshi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rusty Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Braillenote List'" <[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: [Braillenote] Vitally important suggestion for the next
upgrade
Hi folks,
I believe that keysoft NEEDS a financial management component
like
Quicken.
Most sighted people keep a log of their checks. Many keep a
budget sheet
to
track expenses and expendatures ETC.
Some one is bound to answer this by saying that there's a
calculator and a
database program and that this should be enough. I'm not savi
enough to do
the leg work to do the math, go from one to the other.
I hope that some one can harness the power of the bn to create
an
application where we can simply and easily enter these figures,
categorize
them, automatically perform the calculations to let us know how
much we
are
spending and saving on a weekly, monthly and yearly basis.
It would even be cool if the BN had built in formulas to help us
calculate
interest, convert measurements, other simple tasks.
I'm not a math wizzard, I need something to help me do these
things. An
economics major a finance expert could probably make a list of
the
features
we'd need, but I think that if we could just have a BN version
of quicken,
we'd be ahead of the game.
I think these things would make our lives much easier.
Thanks for reading!
Rusty
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