Dear list,
Although the discussion of BrailleNote during
examinations is fine, we REALLY don't want to
drift towards off topic discussions. The
decision of allowing BrailleNote family of
products on a given exam depends on the
people who administer the exam. In my
opinion (although this opinion does not
necessarily reflect views held by other
people), it seems that this whole thread has
lost its purpose. (and I do not wish to
offend anyone here on this list) Thanks for
your considerations.
PddS. I hope this post is not out of bounds.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:09:50 -0600
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] braille note on
testing
I am starting to have dreams about this
subject. In my mind, we
have totally lost of thread of what this
should have been. I
feel like we've talked it to death! Pardon my
two cents.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joleen Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date sent: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:44:15 -0800
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] braille note on
testing
At the risk of cintinuing off topic, I feel
urged to reply with
my
perceptions here.
We can be far too literal about what is and
what is not
acceptable.
This seems obvious--Sighted students are not
to bring electronic
equipment
that could harbor answers to tests. If there
can be a way to
demonstrate
to all concerned that the unit in question
does not have files or
data in
it that a blind student can use to cheet,
then what is the
problem. If
someone would want to hook up a display and
watch to see that
there is no
cheeting, than that is a viable alternative.
If we take this argument to its limit, then
readers and braille
test
materials should not be used either because
the sighted students
do not use
them. Rediculous.
It is important to get to the reason why a
rule is made for the
masses and
then seek an acceptable alternative that may
or may not include
the use of
the Braille Note. the answer may also be to
use a computer with
a screen
reader known to the student and a keyboard
familiar to the
student that the
school tech department has presented with no
information on it
that could
put the blind student at an advantage.
Let's be reasonable. Exceptions will always
have to be made for
us because
we are living in a world taylored for sighted
people. We will
always be
different.
For me, personal integrity is all tied up in
this. It was
important to me
not to cheet in any way because I gave my
word. If I took a test
in
advance of the class, it was just as
important that I not share
questions
or answers with class mates. That is all
about honesty.
Yes, in my day, I took multiple tests orally
with a reader, often
the
instructor. I typed essay questions on a
manual typewriter.
David, I know that you have already put this
topic to bed so to
speak. But
let me say that as you interact with your
teachers, you will go
far if you
can remain objective and help them to find
the best solution to
your
situation and work to resolve the issue
without heightened motion
on the
topic. Self advocacy is an important skill
to learn early. Our
advice is
worth what you are paying for it. We do not
know your particular
situation.
I will remember to pray for you and that you
will come to a
reasonable
outcome to this situation that is acceptable
to all parties.
Joleen
At 05:17 PM 12/4/2006, you wrote:
I believe my sighted nieces used computers
for their term papers.
The point is: if computers for testing are
banned for the
sighted, then
they should be banned for us. But if
computers are permitted,
then they
should be permitted for us.
I believe all government tests must be put
into braille for the
blind, but
I could be wrong. I remember I had a braille
SAT test in 1969 or
1970.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "david"
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] braille note on
testing
One more point. Sighted people usually don't
use cell phones or
pdas for
tests or any kind of schoolwork. They
usually use the plain old
pencil and pen.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Karyn
Campbell"
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] braille note on
testing
Mike, you still have the cheating factor as
well as the fact that
sighted
students are not allowed to use computers,
calculators or PDAs
for testing.
That being the case, we should not be allowed
either. Case
closed.
Take care.
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