The assumption is that a BT (braille keyboard) user would want to use a BT
keyboard on a regular computer.  Many months ago when this feature was
announced, several of us tried using it and it was discovered in the
documentation that it is only for a BT keyboard.  I had heard a
demonstration of the BN driving a computer and wanted to try it.  I had also
heard of a gentleman that gave PowerPoint presentations using a laptop
controlled by his Braillenote.  Unfortunately, HW assumed this feature was
only wanted by people that wanted to use a BT keyboard on a regular
computer.  In fact, I may still have the message from Jonathon Mosen
explaining that it can't be done with a qwerty keyboard.

Cindy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Powers,
Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 1:02 PM
To: Tom Lange; Evelyn Weckerly
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] About those repairs:


Hi Tom;
Thanks for talking to Mike for us.  I am surprised that our moderator
has not said anything about this subject.
Cindy, I sure am surprised about only being able to use a bt to control
a computer.  I never new this.  Thankfully I have a bt.  This is the
first time I have ever heard this mentioned.  I wonder why they would
make it possible with one but not the other.  Sure sounds strange!
Terry Powers


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:58 AM
To: Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]; Evelyn Weckerly
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] About those repairs:

Hi,
Frankly, Humanware would do well to put a process in place to let people

know what's getting repaired and when repaired units get shipped back to
the
customer. I buttonholed Mike Gibson and talked with him after the user
group
meeting at the CSUN conference.  Although he acknowledged that something

clearly had to be done about the situation, he was vague about details
of
the process and when it would be implemented, which didn't give me a
high
degree of confidence that Humanware is committed to doing it.

Tom
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From: "Evelyn Weckerly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] About those repairs:


>         Hi, All,
>
> I have been reading this thread and have decided to jump in. I hae had
to
> send a unit twice to HW--once for transplant and then for some work
while
> still under warranty. Except for failure to notify me when the unit
was on
> its way back the last time I needed service, I have been satisfied
> overall. However, no email notice of impending return caused
incovenience
> because the unit arrived when I was not home. What if I had gone out
of
> town for a week or so? Then it would have been sent back to
California.
> Result? There would have been mor4e shipping, more potential for
damage or
> loss, more expense.
>
> Email notice should be automatic and request for email address should
be
> automatic when we call for an RMA number.
>
> Print and Braille invoices detailing exactly what was done and exactly

> what each item cost (if not under warranty) should also be automatic.
> Print is necesary in case there are problems during the warranty
period.
> This is stand industry practice everywhere else. If I send my CD
player
> back to the manufacturer for repair (I have done that twice in 21
years),
> it comes back with full details of what was done and the cost. No
sighted
> person would be happy with anything less. Why should we be treated
with
> any less respect. So what if I don't understand everything on the
invoice!
> One time, all I understood on a repair invoice was "restored to
factory
> specs". When I later let someone see it who knew all that stuff
involving
> my FM tuner in this case, he said that the company had practically
rebuilt
> it. If someone comes to my home to repair an appliance, I get a
detailed
> invoice.
>
> Finally, I think all adaptive technology companies serving us, whether

> with hardware or software, need to realize that top drawer reliability
of
> products and top drawer customer service and tech support are going to

> result in very fierce loyalty among us and lots of word of mouth
> recommendations. In other words, these things pay off ultimately
though
> expensive sometimes.
>
> I bought my BN from Roger Behm, whom many on this list know. I have
since
> had the transplant and have done other business with Roger. He is
highly
> supportive and is verry careful about invoices and shipping
notification.
> Now I buy from him unhesitatingly. This is not meant to be critical of
HW
> but rather, to urge the company to make certain procedures as
automated as
> possible to that they always happen when repair requests come in. I'm
a
> very happy owner of my BN and its accessories!
>
> Cordially,
>
> Evelyn
>
>
> At 06:50 AM 3/26/2007, you wrote:
>>Good one Brenda!
>>That is why I got my unit sent to my office.  I told others it was
>>coming, so if I was not there, someone else could sign for me.  Also I
>>would love a hard Braille copy of my repair slip or have it put on the
>>machine.  I think hard copy Braille would be a lot easier for HW and I
>>think it is not much to ask for since they have it on the computer.
All
>>they have to do is send it to an embosser and bingo, our wishes are
met.
>>
>>Terry Powers
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Brenda Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:32 PM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: [Braillenote] About those repairs:
>>
>>Actually, I usually specify how things should be shipped and ask
>>the company when it will arrive.  If I stay home that day and the
>>product doesn't arrive, why oh why doesn't Humanware know? I once
>>ordered something from what is now Freedom Scientific.  It had
>>been ordered overnight air, and I had paid the extra. When I
>>called the customer service department, the representative
>>tracked my order, found its tracking number, contacted UPS and
>>told UPS to get that order to my house in no uncertain terms.
>>Everyone knows a business has more power over UPS than residence.
>>If the order is taken, the representative can tell that person to
>>look in that folder for how the system was repaired.  I, for one,
>>am sick and tired of companies who are supposed to serve the
>>blind just throwing printed sheets into that box.  The blind
>>aren't that good at print.  I'd suggest that those companies use
>>resources available to them to communicate directly with the
>>blind customer.  After all, who is paying the salaries in that
>>company? The blind. If you don't see my point, form a company and
>>send all your documentation to the sighties in braille.  What do
>>you think would happen? Well, why should the blind have to put up
>>with lack of information when there's an easy way to get it to
>>them?Why do those companies assume that all blind people have to
>>do is stay home and wait? We have lives, too.
>>
>>
>>Brenda Mueller
>>
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