Great question Nicky!
Peter

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From: "Nicola Sanders \(Telenet\)" <[email protected]
To: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]>,"'Mike Welty'" <[email protected]>,"'Robert Stigile'" <[email protected]>,"'Braillenote Humanware'" <[email protected]
Date sent: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:35:22 +0100
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Backing up

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for the clear explanation. I have a question: Do you think that this hardware problem could also explain the fact that there seems to be very little difference between the Apex and the mPower in terms of the time it takes them to open large files, despite the Apex's faster processor? Or is that more likely to be a separate issue?

Best,

Nicky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <[email protected]
To: "'Mike Welty'" <[email protected]>; "'Robert Stigile'" <[email protected]>; "'Braillenote Humanware'" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Braillenote] Backing up


Hi folks,
Just doing quick searches on Google. So far the results suggests that it is in fact the hardware that is causing the problem. The actual procedure of handling erase and copy on flash devices is somewhat hard for many users to
understand...  Anyone help me, please..
One thing that needs clarification: Windows CE 6 stores all data on Flash. Since Flash is slower than RAM and uses blocks to store data, it would be natural to see slowness when copying large files, especially over six hundred files at once. One simple test could be copying same files and folder over and over again to different folders on the same storage medium - in other words, carrying out backup procedure multiple times on same data, and noting the pattern. Does the file copy operation gets slower? Does it give you some errors about access denial of certain blocks (unlikely)? Then we have a hardware problem (if it does not occur on the mPower, then it is indeed the hardware, not software; although software counts, the problem would have been caused by the shift of storage from RAM to flash and the effects that it has on large file copy operations, such as backing up
files).
Hope it was simple enough for beginners to understand... Again sorry for
some difficult words...
Cheers,
Joseph P.S. I'm considering changing my major after not doing well on my CS
midterm...

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Welty
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 7:07 AM
To: Robert Stigile; Braillenote Humanware
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Backing up

Maybe they are looking at it? you people seem to forget, the apex is just the starting point on the windows CE 6 platform, and the software is still basically for the MPower. these software problems we have been having, may be caused by that. give HW a chance to correct errors and the like before
saying they didn't do their job and all.


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From: "Robert Stigile" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 09:51
To: "Braillenote Humanware" <[email protected]
Subject: [Braillenote] Backing up

Hello All,
This morning, I thought i would try backing up my flash disk to see what
people are talking about with the Apex.
I have 10 mb of files, and when it finished, it said it copied 680 files.
This took 15 minutes to take place.
Clearly, this should not take this long.
Hw needs to look at the backup utility, and figure out why it is so slow.
Take care,
Robert Stigile
E-mail: [email protected]
Skype: Robertstigile

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