Yes, Braille Sense upgrades have always been free, which doesn't
mean they will always be, but as they are catching up and trying to
establish themselves, I don't imagine they'll charge soon.  Yes, the upgrade
process is easy.  The upgrade process for the Apex is a little more
involved, but they're putting a new mechanism in place, and it will handle
NLS keys, upgrades, and the like.  

For HIMS to upgrade their system to use Windows CE6 instead of 5 would be a
very major undertaking.  I imagine they will upgrade the current firmware to
fix bugs and add functionality, but it will still be based on Windows CE 5
instead of 6.  

Dean


-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Gregory [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 2:28 PM
To: Alex Hall; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Braillenote] off topic: braille sense vs braillenote apex

Mr.  Alex,
Saw that page before, I'll have to look at it again though.  I 
think I'll subscribe and see what I get.  Mr.  Dean or anybody, 
do you think they'll upgrade the OS?
I also heard that it's really easy to upgrade and that it's also 
free.  Go to the Utilities Menu, go to the last item, hit enter, 
and when it asks if you're sure you want to upgrade, hit enter 
and it'll install the new version.  Are the upgrades for the 
Braille Sense similar to the BN? For instance, do they release 
maintenance releases and stuff like that, and does anybody know 
what current upgrades have included?
Thanks!
Josh

>----- Original Message -----
>From: Alex Hall <[email protected]
>To: Dean Martineau <[email protected]
>Date sent: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 17:17:14 -0500
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] off topic: braille sense vs 
braillenote apex

>Josh: yes, someone from Hims monitors the list.
>Dean: I agree that the Sense family will likely see more 
development
>in terms of features.  However, they all run CE5, whereas the 
apex runs
>ce6 and so has much more potential.  The hardware (ram, drive 
space,
>processor, and so on) is almost exactly the same, I believe, 
though
>there is a really nice comparison page on braillenote.pbwiki.com.

>On 2/12/11, Dean Martineau <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I spent a little time with a Braille Sense Plus.  It's a good 
machine, but I
>> chose the Apex.  I prefer the smaller size, less expensive 
battery, I
>> believe better battery life, a multi-language capability.  With 
the recent
>> Keysoft upgrade, networking is better on the Apex.  I didn't 
like the
>> Windows simulated environment on the Braille Sense.  I expect 
HIMS will
>> develop the Braille Sense, perhaps more than Humanware will do 
with the
>> Apex, but I'm glad about my choice.

>> Dean


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Alex Hall
>> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 1:38 PM
>> To: Josh Gregory
>> Cc: Braille Note
>> Subject: Re: [Braillenote] off topic: braille sense vs 
braillenote apex

>> As this is a comparison thread and so still involves the bn, I 
would
>> leave it on list.

>> The primary difference is the interface.  The bsp (braille sense 
plus)
>> and bsoh (braille sense on hand, basically the HIMS answer to 
the pk)
>> are good devices and have some features that the bn does not.  
However,
>> they are made to resemble Windows.  For example, in any program, 
you
>> access different menus which may have submenus or dialog boxes.  
In
>> keysoft, as you know, everything is done through lists and 
menus.  I
>> know a few people on here have, or have used, both devices, so I 
will
>> leave the details to them.  In short, though, you will always 
trade
>> some features for others with whatever device you use.
>> The hims list is pretty low-traffic; if you want more 
information and
>> first-hand experience, I would definitely join it.

>> On 2/12/11, Josh Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was just at my state's Braille Challenge and I got to see the
>>> Braille Sense Plus.  It looked pretty cool and seemed to have 
all
>>> the same technology as the Apex.  However, it doesn't seem to
>>> have a calculator.
>>> I guess what I'm asking is: Has anybody ever used a Braille 
Sense
>>> and if so, what did you think?
>>> If anyone would like to comment on this, can you please email me
>>> offlist since this is off topic?
>>> Thanks so much!
>>> Josh
>>> PS: Does anybody think it'd be worth subscribing to the HIMS 
list
>>> to get more info?

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