Uh, then it's up to you to leave a list that is talking about the braille note, 
which happens to come with speech.
Although, unless one has been made already, it would be nice to see a note 
taker with just a braille display on it, no speech.  I kind of wonder if it 
would bring down the price a smidgen.  The Braille Star sounds close to what 
I'm thinking, although, I think it's just a braille display with a braille 
keyboard on it, but I'm not all fire sure what all it's used for.


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On 5/18/2004 at 13:26 Todd Patkus wrote:

Josh,

Wait!  You have forgotten one VERY VITALLY IMPORTANT part!  What about
deafblind who deliberately need Braille?  Please do not talk about these
DELIBERATELY SUCKING VN!  If you, hearing/blind, want these SUCKING VN, go
ask PDI to set a COMPLETELY SEPARATE listing for these COMPLETELY SUCKING
VN!  I do not support them, PERIOD!  It makes me mad, so please y'all
hearing/blind QUIT talking about these SSSUUUCCCKKKIIINNNGGG speech
stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That really SUCKS!  ONLY THINK FIRST BEFORE SAYING SOMETHING!

Otherwise, yes, we (you and I) have discussed these definitely and strongly
frustrating issues about PDI a.ing/improving these Bations!  We should
persistently continue MEDDLING the PDI staff until we get to the point we
want!

Sorry if I have spoken so bluntly above but I must without fail speak up
about these VN.  I am not going to argue but only stand firm against these!
 The blind must without fail listen to us deafblind and must without fail
understand our strong frustrations you hearing/blind do not understand!
You, deafblind, understand my sharp frustrations???

Thank you again.

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Josh Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:30:15 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: re: [Braillenote] waterproof the BN

>That would be neat.  then all we'd have to do is buy a voicenote at first,
and without the braille display when you'd go to turn braille on it would
say display not found.  Then when you could afford it, pay an extra $2000
or $3000.00 to buy the detachable braille display.  Good idea.

>But my more pressing need is that internet browser and email upgrade! they
need updated and they need more integrated!

>Josh


>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Mary Ellen Earls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Braillenote List <[email protected]
>>Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:30:51 -0400
>>Subject: re: [Braillenote] waterproof the BN

>>Well I have this concern too, Terry.  I am definitely for either the
removable Braille Display or a cover which can fit over it.  I have tons of
the finest cookbooks e.  g.  Julia child, for example, which are stored on
a micro drive.  I can't use these books as it stands because of the Braille
Display.
>>If there was a cover the Braille Note would happily be in the kitchen
with me.
>>As far as cases for the laptops, Well I have a form fitted zipper bag
which is made by Targus and it goes over the shoulder and is made of this
synthetic material which can withstand most anything but fire.
>>Laptops, as a rule, don't come with cases as the Braillenote does.
>>But Yes, I would like to see some protection for the Braille display.
for one thing, it would stay cleaner a lot longer and for another, people
like me who use mostly speach wouldn't be bother with the thumb keys
getting in the way.
>>Mary Ellen Earls


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