With the HX one side feeds the other.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Ben McCafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not sure I follow—doesn't drawing a cup out of the steam boiler reduce that
> side's line, not the brew boiler?  Maybe I need to look at my schematic
> again.
> bmc
> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel....."
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> *From: *Barry Luterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Reply-To: *<[email protected]>
> *Date: *Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:47:50 -1000
> *To: *<[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: Holy Lemon Drops Batman!!!
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> My suggestion is don't tip the machine next time you de-scale. Apparently
> you got some salt above the water line and it is slowly settling into your
> brew boiler. To get the scale at the water line I simply reduce the water in
> the brew boiler weekly during my Cafiza flush. I start by shutting my heated
> machine off. Then I draw a cup of hot water into a SS bowl with Cafiza in
> it. I place my PF in the bowl to soak. I then turn back on the machine.
> Water is pumped into the boiler rinsing the line at which the level of the
> water interfaces with the boiler. If this procedure is followed weekly there
> should be no reason to tip the machine. Keep flushing you will get there
> eventually.
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> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Ben McCafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yes, yes, don't use it (if you mean the softener on the intake line).  I'll
> keep flushing.  I'm at seven times now and still there, but gradually
> fading.
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> tx,
> bmc
> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel....."
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>  *From: *Barry Luterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> *Reply-To: *<[email protected] <http://[email protected]> >
> *Date: *Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:25:54 -1000
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> *To: *<[email protected] <http://[email protected]> >
> *Subject: *Re: Holy Lemon Drops Batman!!!
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> Did you clean and rinse the plastic reservoir real well? Did you completely
> drain the boilers? Did you remove the inline filter before de-scaling? If
> yes to all three. Then flush again till taste is gone
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> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Ben McCafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <
> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
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> Yes, I've been using food grade citric acid, from the spice barn.  Same as
> yours.
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> I have now filled/shaken/heated/emptied both boilers five times, and water
> at the group head still havsa very clear citric taste—bright/acid/sour.
>  Your routine shows only flushing the boilers twice, so I must be missing
> something?  How do you get rid of the rest of the citric?
>
> tx,
>
> bmc
> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel....."
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> *From: *Barry Luterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> *Reply-To: *<[email protected] <http://[email protected]>  <
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> *Date: *Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:42:01 -1000
> *To: *<[email protected] <http://[email protected]>  <
> http://[email protected]> >
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> *Subject: *Re: Holy Lemon Drops Batman!!!
>
>
> That is why I use food grade Citric Acid (sour salt) If you saw bright blue
> water come out it was a successful de-scaling.Let us know how your first
> shot turned out.
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>  On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Ben McCafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <
> http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  <http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
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> OK, anticipating a life-altering Godshot this morning, I
> ground/dosed/loaded
> and pulled the shot.  Whoa!!!  Very sour.  Was  I really dulling my beans
> that much with dirtiness?  Pulled another.  Even more sour.
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> Then it dawned on me--I tipped the machine all directions for soaking, but
> not for flushing, so there's still a lot of citric in there.  So this
> morning I'm draining and refilling the boilers and sloshing the water
> around
> to try to reach the remaining citric to rinse it out.
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> John, as a side effect of doing this, I discovered that when I tip the
> machine over a ways (power on), the water level sensor is higher than water
> line and the pump will add some more water to the steam boiler.  This
> wouldn't fill it all the way like you are doing, but it would get the acid
> solution above the normal water/scale line.  Might have to do that next
> time.
>
> John, you said you open the steam wand until solution runs out.  Is there
> any implication for the no-burn liner when you run an acid solution through
> it?
>
> Incidentally, I weighed and measured Barry's 4 tablespoons per reservoir,
> and it is 60g in 3 liters, so that's the same 20g/l you mentioned John.  I
> had no idea the reservoir held 3 liters!
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> Still anticipating that great shot...
>
> bmc
> "Faith will move mountains, but you'd better bring a shovel....."
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