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This should help clarify the difference between the pressure shown on
the Brewtus guage versus the pressure in the portafilter.  11.5 on the
Brewtus guage may be a bit high but not way out of line.

On Jan 28, 10:36 pm, Chris Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just confirmed, with a blind PF in, it holds steady at 11.5 bar on my gauge.
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> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Chris Bailey <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > This was one of my worries, was that the pressure gauge wasn't accurate,
> > and then as per Todd's note that what the gauge reads isn't necessarily what
> > the actual pressure is.  That is pretty poor in my opinion - why bother
> > putting a gauge on there if it's going to be wrong.  But, alas, that's what
> > we have.  This is one reason I'm nervous to monkey with it, as it's hard to
> > say whether it's really wrong or not, it just surprised me that mine
> > consistently reads 11 bar (with blind PF or when pulling shots).  I'll
> > verify that in a few minutes, but pretty sure.
> > I'm grinding, tamping, etc. as per standards AFAIK: 30lb tamp, grounds
> > typically around 15g in the double basket, grind setting such that my shots
> > are typically in the 25-30 second range from the time I pull the lever to
> > when I've filled a cup approx 1.5oz by volume (I mostly pull shots by where
> > it fills to on my cups, but have measured this and it's right about 1.5oz).
> >  I've read a fair bit, practiced a ton, use only fresh beans (3 to maybe at
> > most 9 days after roast date), grind on a nice Macap grinder, etc.  I've had
> > a friend who's pulled a ton of shots use my machine as well.
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> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:05 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >>  Also be aware that the pressure gauge on the Brewtus II can be wrong. I
> >> went to considerable effort and expense to more or less establish (to the
> >> degree that the large pressure gauge that I bought is accurate. It was sold
> >> with the statement that it has an accuracy of 1%) that the pressure gauge 
> >> on
> >> my machine is two bar off. I wrote about this at the time on this group, so
> >> you might be able to find it with a search.
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> >> Allen
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> >>  *From:* Chris Bailey <[email protected]>
> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:56 PM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* Re: Adjusting pressure
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> >> My screw looks like it's metal, and is located on the front of the
> >> machine, lower right corner, once you've removed the drip tray.  Sound
> >> right?  I do tamp to 30lbs.  I'll use the blind PF to set the pressure,
> >> thanks for that info!
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> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM, BinBakinBeans 
> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
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> >>> Which version of Brewtus?
> >>> The first had a teflon screw on the opv valve that became problematic
> >>> after adjusting the pressure.
> >>> The first of the BII had teflon as well. They were later switched to
> >>> an opv with a brass adjusting screw. I replaced mine with one of these
> >>> after I had problems with my original teflon screw opv on my BII.
> >>>  Strangely enough, Expobar has again gone back to using an opv with a
> >>> teflon screw on the new BIII machines.
> >>>  I would say go ahead and adjust it, especially if it is a brass
> >>> screw. If it is teflon, be prepared to "possibly" have some future
> >>> problems with it. Not a big deal to change it out if you do.
> >>> Use the blind filter in the portafilter to get it down to about 8.5 to
> >>> 9 on the guage.
> >>> Check again when you actually pull a shot that it is around 8.5. I
> >>> will assume that you will have properly tamped to about 30 pounds.
>
> >>> On Jan 25, 12:27 pm, Chris Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > I've seen a fair bit of talk on the list about adjusting pressure.
> >>>  Given
> >>> > the fact that there's tape over the pressure adjust screw on my
> >>> machine, and
> >>> > all the warnings about don't touch it, only let the factory do it, etc,
> >>> > etc., I'm leery of messing with it.  Also, my understanding is that
> >>> > supposedly the factory has pulled shots and checked the pressure and
> >>> set it
> >>> > properly.
> >>> > But, I've just wondered about it.  My pressure gauge typically reads
> >>> about
> >>> > 11 bar when I'm pulling shots.  I'm unclear on whether it's supposed to
> >>> read
> >>> > the true 8.5-9 bar that an espresso should be done at, or whether the
> >>> gauge
> >>> > is a pressure at a different point in the system and thus the real
> >>> pressure
> >>> > at the PF is lower, or not.
>
> >>> > Can folks discuss this a bit?  Other than taste, are there ways for me
> >>> to
> >>> > know whether my machine is set right or not, and/or if I'm going to
> >>> adjust
> >>> > it (and potentially void my warranty?) how can I know when I've set it
> >>> to
> >>> > the right spot?  From the reading I've done I think I understand that
> >>> too
> >>> > much pressure can actually cause a build up and not get things flowing
> >>> > properly (which seems a bit backwards, but I sort of understand).
>
> >>> > Anyway, let me know what folks think.
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> >>> > Chris Bailey
> >>> > [email protected]
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