Ok, read that thread.  I guess what's strange to me is that, the gauge is
almost pointless.  I suppose it's useful to know if something has gone
really wrong, but otherwise you can't really use it to adjust or to fine
tune your pressure.  It's just a little misleading to me I guess.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, TWG <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Search this group with the terms:  Calibrating Brew Pressure
>
> This should help clarify the difference between the pressure shown on
> the Brewtus guage versus the pressure in the portafilter.  11.5 on the
> Brewtus guage may be a bit high but not way out of line.
>
> On Jan 28, 10:36 pm, Chris Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Just confirmed, with a blind PF in, it holds steady at 11.5 bar on my
> gauge.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Chris Bailey <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > This was one of my worries, was that the pressure gauge wasn't
> accurate,
> > > and then as per Todd's note that what the gauge reads isn't necessarily
> what
> > > the actual pressure is.  That is pretty poor in my opinion - why bother
> > > putting a gauge on there if it's going to be wrong.  But, alas, that's
> what
> > > we have.  This is one reason I'm nervous to monkey with it, as it's
> hard to
> > > say whether it's really wrong or not, it just surprised me that mine
> > > consistently reads 11 bar (with blind PF or when pulling shots).  I'll
> > > verify that in a few minutes, but pretty sure.
> > > I'm grinding, tamping, etc. as per standards AFAIK: 30lb tamp, grounds
> > > typically around 15g in the double basket, grind setting such that my
> shots
> > > are typically in the 25-30 second range from the time I pull the lever
> to
> > > when I've filled a cup approx 1.5oz by volume (I mostly pull shots by
> where
> > > it fills to on my cups, but have measured this and it's right about
> 1.5oz).
> > >  I've read a fair bit, practiced a ton, use only fresh beans (3 to
> maybe at
> > > most 9 days after roast date), grind on a nice Macap grinder, etc.
>  I've had
> > > a friend who's pulled a ton of shots use my machine as well.
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:05 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >>  Also be aware that the pressure gauge on the Brewtus II can be wrong.
> I
> > >> went to considerable effort and expense to more or less establish (to
> the
> > >> degree that the large pressure gauge that I bought is accurate. It was
> sold
> > >> with the statement that it has an accuracy of 1%) that the pressure
> gauge on
> > >> my machine is two bar off. I wrote about this at the time on this
> group, so
> > >> you might be able to find it with a search.
> >
> > >> Allen
> >
> > >>  *From:* Chris Bailey <[email protected]>
> > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:56 PM
> > >> *To:* [email protected]
> > >> *Subject:* Re: Adjusting pressure
> >
> > >> My screw looks like it's metal, and is located on the front of the
> > >> machine, lower right corner, once you've removed the drip tray.  Sound
> > >> right?  I do tamp to 30lbs.  I'll use the blind PF to set the
> pressure,
> > >> thanks for that info!
> >
> > >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM, BinBakinBeans <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > >>> Which version of Brewtus?
> > >>> The first had a teflon screw on the opv valve that became problematic
> > >>> after adjusting the pressure.
> > >>> The first of the BII had teflon as well. They were later switched to
> > >>> an opv with a brass adjusting screw. I replaced mine with one of
> these
> > >>> after I had problems with my original teflon screw opv on my BII.
> > >>>  Strangely enough, Expobar has again gone back to using an opv with a
> > >>> teflon screw on the new BIII machines.
> > >>>  I would say go ahead and adjust it, especially if it is a brass
> > >>> screw. If it is teflon, be prepared to "possibly" have some future
> > >>> problems with it. Not a big deal to change it out if you do.
> > >>> Use the blind filter in the portafilter to get it down to about 8.5
> to
> > >>> 9 on the guage.
> > >>> Check again when you actually pull a shot that it is around 8.5. I
> > >>> will assume that you will have properly tamped to about 30 pounds.
> >
> > >>> On Jan 25, 12:27 pm, Chris Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> > I've seen a fair bit of talk on the list about adjusting pressure.
> > >>>  Given
> > >>> > the fact that there's tape over the pressure adjust screw on my
> > >>> machine, and
> > >>> > all the warnings about don't touch it, only let the factory do it,
> etc,
> > >>> > etc., I'm leery of messing with it.  Also, my understanding is that
> > >>> > supposedly the factory has pulled shots and checked the pressure
> and
> > >>> set it
> > >>> > properly.
> > >>> > But, I've just wondered about it.  My pressure gauge typically
> reads
> > >>> about
> > >>> > 11 bar when I'm pulling shots.  I'm unclear on whether it's
> supposed to
> > >>> read
> > >>> > the true 8.5-9 bar that an espresso should be done at, or whether
> the
> > >>> gauge
> > >>> > is a pressure at a different point in the system and thus the real
> > >>> pressure
> > >>> > at the PF is lower, or not.
> >
> > >>> > Can folks discuss this a bit?  Other than taste, are there ways for
> me
> > >>> to
> > >>> > know whether my machine is set right or not, and/or if I'm going to
> > >>> adjust
> > >>> > it (and potentially void my warranty?) how can I know when I've set
> it
> > >>> to
> > >>> > the right spot?  From the reading I've done I think I understand
> that
> > >>> too
> > >>> > much pressure can actually cause a build up and not get things
> flowing
> > >>> > properly (which seems a bit backwards, but I sort of understand).
> >
> > >>> > Anyway, let me know what folks think.
> >
> > >>> > --
> > >>> > Chris Bailey
> > >>> > [email protected]
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Chris Bailey
> > >> [email protected]
> >
> > > --
> > > Chris Bailey
> > > [email protected]
> >
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> > Chris Bailey
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