This has been a very helpful thread and I thank all contributors, I have some Molykote 111 on order and will be applying referencing the link kindly posted by Mariowar.
I noticed the stiffness and squeak while doing the periodical back flush with cleanser and after 6-7 back flushes to clear out the cleanser the lever feels soooo stiff I was afraid some serious damage was occurring. On Jan 10, 11:47 pm, Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> wrote: > Nonetheless, if you're willing, let us know how the 111 stands up to Cafiza > after your next couple of backflushes with it. > > all best, > bmc > > On Jan 10, 2010, at 1:58 AM, mariowar wrote: > > > > > There is absolutely no risk of group tear taking the lever handle out > > and even the cam which is optional to lube them. I am not a handy guy > > and I did it. > > The fact is that you eventually get used to the lever getting stiffer > > as time passes by and you only get a little concerned when it > > squeaks.... > > > Again, my only advice as I mentioned it before is take a picture of > > the lever and cam before you snap it out and assure you that the > > whole service should not las longer than 15 or 20 minutes. > > > Dow Corning 111 is the best lubricant available for espresso machines. > > It is food safe and stable up to 400F. I will even try it on the next > > group gasket to be able to take the screen easier for cleaning. > > How long will it last? > > Well, Chriscofee recommends blackfushing with detergent only once > > every 4 to 6 weeks if you pull 2 to 6 shots a day ( I fit in this > > category) and I was doing it once a week ! , therefore, I think that > > every 3 months would be ideal only in case that I detect the lever > > stiffer or squeaking. > > Only time will tell, but again, according to the link provided you can > > lube the sides of the cam and the pins without even snapping the cam > > out since you only want to do it if you are going to lube the back of > > it ( once a year is more than enough IMHO). Without snapping the cam > > out it would take me 10 minutes total to lube the sides of the cam, > > the pins and the inside part of the barrel which are the most > > important parts. > > > On Jan 9, 9:29 pm, "herman" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That would be my worry. It looks like more wear and tear taking the group > >> apart that often than not lubing at all. > >> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Benjamin McCafferty <[email protected]> > >> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:25:12 > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Squeaky Lever > > >> Nice article, thanks. I would be curious for a followup post, after you > >> next backflush with Cafiza, on whether the 111 stood up to it or not. > >> bmc > > >> On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:09 PM, mariowar wrote: > > >>> Well, I got some Dow Corning 111 and it took me about 10 minutes to > >>> remove the nuts and the cam and lube everything. Then it took me about > >>> 2 hours to put the cam back where it belongs. If I had taken a pic > >>> before taking it out it would have bee WAY easier..... :) > > >>> Now the lever feels like NEW, I had forgotten how smooth it was. I > >>> will definetely do it again. > > >>> Just in case that you think that coffee oils are enough to lube the > >>> cam and the lever take a look to this link which by the way showed me > >>> the way to put the cam back in its place. > > >>>http://coffeetime.wikidot.com/e61-lubrication > > >>> On Jan 7, 7:24 am, HERMAN <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> i have a brewtus II that i got in november of 2005, it does the same > >>>> thing every time i clean with cafiza but it smooths out after a couple > >>>> of shots. it's done it since the first time i cleaned it. i doubt it > >>>> will be a problem. > >>>> h > > >>>> --- On Thu, 1/7/10, mariowar <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> From: mariowar <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Squeaky Lever > >>>> To: "Brewtus" <[email protected]> > >>>> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 12:48 AM > > >>>> My Brewtus III is one year old and the E61 lever started to produce a > >>>> squeaky sound. Y backflush with cleaner every week after pulling about > >>>> 30 double shots. > >>>> I am a little worried because it does not go away by itself and I > >>>> think that if I keep using it some internal parts of the group will > >>>> wear out fast. > > >>>> I read about DOW Corning 111 valve lubricant which is Food Safe + > >>>> handles High Temperatures. > > >>>> I wonder if any of you have serviced the lever? Any tips? 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