Don't bother with the old AKO controller, I had 2 fail. The GICAR one is 
much better, holds temperature better and lasts, it's a no brainer ;o)

On Friday, 13 October 2017 14:05:41 UTC+1, Nicholas Majka wrote:
>
> Hi Mike- WLL support's diagnosis over the phone was a failing PID.
>
> Unfortunately the PID for the Brewtus III is not available anymore at WLL 
> so I had to buy the upgrade kit with PID and relay for about 200$. 
>
> It's sitting on my table, and I too will try to install it this weekend!  
> Will be good to compare notes.
>
> Did you get the upgrade to the new PID? (the blue LEDs?)  Or did you 
> manage to get the old one?
>
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 8:21:48 PM UTC-4, Mike PDX wrote:
>>
>> Nicholas,
>>
>> Your experience sounds just like what I'm going through as well with my 
>> Brewtus III.  Same symptoms, flashing firmware that then stabilizes when 
>> the machine heats up.  The issue started for me when a pressure stat failed 
>> and tons of steam was vented into the machine case last November.  While it 
>> looks bad, it's been functional for nearly a year this way, the only real 
>> operational problem is that it's been impossible for me to switch the PID 
>> over to Fahrenheit for some reason.  
>>
>> However, I noticed my warm up time has been getting progressively longer 
>> in the last month or so (now takes roughly 45 min when it used to take 25 
>> +/-) so I just ordered a new PID.  Haven't had time to install it yet, but 
>> hoping to get to it this weekend.  I'll update this thread when I get a 
>> chance to change it out.
>>
>> Best!
>> Mike
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 3:04:32 AM UTC-7, Nicholas Majka wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Have a Brewtus III with rotary pump for about 10 years.  Only issues 
>>> have been cracked copper fitting, replaced vacuum relief valve, and 
>>> replaced a failed pressurestat.  
>>>
>>> Over the past few months, the PID would flicker and show '104' 
>>> (firmware?) on screen while flashing but still able to pull shots and 
>>> steam.  
>>>
>>> Yesterday the PID was flashing very rapidly (maybe 3-5x per second) and 
>>> when I went to pull a shot the water was room temperature.  Steam/water 
>>> dispenser were fine.
>>>
>>> I don't have electrical testing equipment but followed the WLL 
>>> troubleshooting video, checked for loose wires and noticed the light on the 
>>> SSR is NOT illuminated.  
>>>
>>> Now when I turn the machine off and then back on, there is no PID 
>>> reading for several minutes until the steam boiler gets warm, then the PID 
>>> starts to light up (still flickering).  The brew boiler is still not 
>>> heating, and dispenses room temperature water even after several hours of 
>>> being on.  
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?  Bad PID?  SSR?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your help! 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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