I checked high limit switch on the steam and brew boiler and both had 
continuity.  Checked voltage while the machine was on and had voltage on both 
legs of each.

 

I think you’re probably right about the controller and will test tomorrow to 
see.

 

Big thanks, Todd.  Really appreciate the leg up.

 

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Todd 
Salzman
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Diagnosing no brew heat

 

At this point the diagnosing the problem can be difficult if you are not used 
to working electricity.  So if you are read below. If not then you may want to 
think about sending it in.

 

 

The first thing to check is the  high limit on top of the  boiler.  Unplug the 
machine and push the red button and then try again to see if it work.  If not, 
pull the wires off of it and use an ohm meter to check to continuity.   If you 
don't have continuity then replace it.  That may fix the issue.

 

If not:

 

I am also thinking that the relay inside the Digital controller is not closing.

 

There are a few ways you can test this.

 

1.      If you have a voltmeter and are familiar with its use. When the steam 
boiler is hot and the red light turns off check voltage between 8 and 9 and the 
AKO digital controllerler.   If the relay is closed you will read no volts, if 
the relay is open then you will read around 110 volts and it will probably have 
to be replaced.  We do not have them so maybe someone on the group can located 
one for you.  If not you will need PID upgrade kit.

Or

1.      If you can measure voltage between either 8  and the copper on the 
boiler or 9  and  the copper boiler when the steam boiler is hot and the red 
light is off, you can pull the wires off number and 8 and 9 and wire nut them 
together. And then plug the machine on and after the steam boiler heats again  
the brew boiler should start to heat.   DON'T leave it like this or the boiler 
will overheat. Note: Always unplug the machine when working on the wires.

 

What do you think?

 

TS

 



 

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Jonathan Stroum <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

PID display shows current temp, no error code.  Steam boiler light cycles on 
and off properly but voltage never goes to brew boiler.

Little PID light is steady.  Temp is set for 96.

This is a B2 so I don’t think the Static relay has a light?

All wires seem secure at the PID.  Will check again.

 

Have watched the video through checking pressurestat and that’s where I stopped.

 

Thanks Todd!

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Todd 
Salzman
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:50 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: Diagnosing no brew heat

 

Could be a few things.

 

1.      What does the PID display show?
2.      Is the small light on the PID on steady?
3.      Find the Static Relay and is that light on?
4.      Check all the wires that go into the back of the PID and make sure they 
are properly secured.

Take a look at this video, it may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIiLeRdVWAU 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIiLeRdVWAU&t=939s> &t=939s

 

Please let me know what you find.

 

Todd Salzman

Whole Latte Love

 

On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Stroum <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hoping for some diagnostic intelligence from you more experienced Brewtus 
folks.  I grabbed Chris Bailey’s B2 last week for my brother-in-law and had a 
chance to start the refurb process a few days ago.

 

1st problem ID’d was a dead pump.  Ordered and installed today, I know water 
has made it successfully to the steam boiler since it’s heating up, producing 
big steam and the status light is coming on and off.

 

2nd problem was one of the Teflon hose that goes from the steam boiler to the 
brew boiler was leaking.  Replaced.

 

3rd problem is the brew boiler isn’t heating. I’ve measured 14.5 ohms across 
the heater terminals and 0 ohms across either of the terminals and the boiler.  
When detaching power from the heater and connecting my meter I see about 18 
volts.  I’ve seen 120V intermittently but it’s not reproduceable and apparently 
never gets delivered to the brew boiler.  It seems clear that something is 
telling the controller not send 120V to the boiler.

 

The setting on the stock controller is at 96C.

 

The components I understand have a role in determining behavior are the 
pressurestat, the heat sensors on each of the boilers.  Is there a water level 
sensor on the brew boiler?  

 

Anyone care to venture a guess or give me pointers on where to look next?

 

Thanks much,

JPaul

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