If tomorrow's tests fail, at least I know where to get a controller...

https://www.amazon.com/Temperature-Controller-Thermostat-Replacement-Refrigeration/dp/B01M7UBGHO


On Sunday, March 25, 2018 at 4:03:21 PM UTC-7, jpaul wrote:
>
> I checked high limit switch on the steam and brew boiler and both had 
> continuity.  Checked voltage while the machine was on and had voltage on 
> both legs of each.
>
>  
>
> I think you’re probably right about the controller and will test tomorrow 
> to see.
>
>  
>
> Big thanks, Todd.  Really appreciate the leg up.
>
>  
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of 
> *Todd Salzman
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:55 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Diagnosing no brew heat
>
>  
>
> At this point the diagnosing the problem can be difficult if you are not 
> used to working electricity.  So if you are read below. If not then you may 
> want to think about sending it in.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> The first thing to check is the  high limit on top of the  boiler.  Unplug 
> the machine and push the red button and then try again to see if it work.  
> If not, pull the wires off of it and use an ohm meter to check to 
> continuity.   If you don't have continuity then replace it.  That may fix 
> the issue.
>
>  
>
> If not:
>
>  
>
> I am also thinking that the relay inside the Digital controller is not 
> closing.
>
>  
>
> There are a few ways you can test this.
>
>  
>
>    1. If you have a voltmeter and are familiar with its use. When the 
>    steam boiler is hot and the red light turns off check voltage between 8 
> and 
>    9 and the AKO digital controllerler.   If the relay is closed you will 
> read 
>    no volts, if the relay is open then you will read around 110 volts and it 
>    will probably have to be replaced.  We do not have them so maybe someone 
> on 
>    the group can located one for you.  If not you will need PID upgrade kit.
>
> Or
>
>    1. If you can measure voltage between either 8  and the copper on the 
>    boiler or 9  and  the copper boiler when the steam boiler is hot and the 
>    red light is off, you can pull the wires off number and 8 and 9 and wire 
>    nut them together. And then plug the machine on and after the steam boiler 
>    heats again  the brew boiler should start to heat.   DON'T leave it like 
>    this or the boiler will overheat. Note: Always unplug the machine when 
>    working on the wires.
>
>  
>
> What do you think?
>
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>
> TS
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> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Jonathan Stroum <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
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> PID display shows current temp, no error code.  Steam boiler light cycles 
> on and off properly but voltage never goes to brew boiler.
>
> Little PID light is steady.  Temp is set for 96.
>
> This is a B2 so I don’t think the Static relay has a light?
>
> All wires seem secure at the PID.  Will check again.
>
>  
>
> Have watched the video through checking pressurestat and that’s where I 
> stopped.
>
>  
>
> Thanks Todd!
>
>  
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of 
> *Todd Salzman
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:50 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Diagnosing no brew heat
>
>  
>
> Could be a few things.
>
>  
>
>    1. What does the PID display show?
>    2. Is the small light on the PID on steady?
>    3. Find the Static Relay and is that light on?
>    4. Check all the wires that go into the back of the PID and make sure 
>    they are properly secured.
>
> Take a look at this video, it may help:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIiLeRdVWAU&t=939s
>
>  
>
> Please let me know what you find.
>
>  
>
> Todd Salzman
>
> Whole Latte Love
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Stroum <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> Hoping for some diagnostic intelligence from you more experienced Brewtus 
> folks.  I grabbed Chris Bailey’s B2 last week for my brother-in-law and had 
> a chance to start the refurb process a few days ago.
>
>  
>
> 1st problem ID’d was a dead pump.  Ordered and installed today, I know 
> water has made it successfully to the steam boiler since it’s heating up, 
> producing big steam and the status light is coming on and off.
>
>  
>
> 2nd problem was one of the Teflon hose that goes from the steam boiler to 
> the brew boiler was leaking.  Replaced.
>
>  
>
> 3rd problem is the brew boiler isn’t heating. I’ve measured 14.5 ohms 
> across the heater terminals and 0 ohms across either of the terminals and 
> the boiler.  When detaching power from the heater and connecting my meter I 
> see about 18 volts.  I’ve seen 120V intermittently but it’s not 
> reproduceable and apparently never gets delivered to the brew boiler.  It 
> seems clear that something is telling the controller not send 120V to the 
> boiler.
>
>  
>
> The setting on the stock controller is at 96C.
>
>  
>
> The components I understand have a role in determining behavior are the 
> pressurestat, the heat sensors on each of the boilers.  Is there a water 
> level sensor on the brew boiler?  
>
>  
>
> Anyone care to venture a guess or give me pointers on where to look next?
>
>  
>
> Thanks much,
>
> JPaul
>
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