I bought my BII used with several years of service on it from a local 
expert, and I've done virtually nothing to it in the six years I have owned 
it.  I think I paid a bit over $1000, and that's all I got.  No grinder, no 
accessories.

If you have any mechanical aptitude for when the machine eventually needs 
work, I'd jump on this in a second.  

Just in a quick glance at a Google, it sounds like the grinder may have 
some drawbacks, but honestly, at $500 for both, even if you resold the 
grinder for a couple hundred and put a little work into the BII, I think 
it's still a bargain.

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 7:11:04 PM UTC-4, Justin Labayen wrote:
>
> Hello! I need some advice on buying a used brewtus ii. Seller has it 
> listed for $500. He bought it used 8-9 months ago and as far as he knows, 
> it was well maintained by the previous owner. He's only descaled it once 
> when he bought it. He's from out of town so i can't really look at it in 
> person. 
>
> Also, he's selling a Macap m4d for $275 and he's willing to sell both 
> expobar and grinder for $700.
>
> This is going to be my first espresso machine. I was also looking at a 
> silvia with PID before finding this deal.
>

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