Wow that’s an old caliper! Sure looks like 4mm, certainly a possibility. Just confirm what size and thread type the other end is and you’ll be good to go. If you start to type “swivel elbows” in the search bar it’ll bring up something like “push to connect fittings” in the suggested options. Choose that and then specify your thread type and size and tubing size and you’ll be good to go.
On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 9:02:19 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: > [image: 3qiNJb5.jpg] > > On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:58:19 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: > >> Excellent. I believe I'm measuring the OD at 4MM, though. Does that make >> sense?[image: PXL_20210111_015701709.jpg] >> >> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:06:29 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >> >>> Sorry one last thought: >>> >>> Looks like the tubing may actually be 6MM OD not 1/4" try to confirm >>> which one you've got. Parts Guru >>> <https://shop.partsguru.com/Male-Elbow-1-4M-6mm-Fitting-30400020-30400010.htm> >>> has >>> the original part from the diagram, as does Cafe Parts >>> <https://www.cafeparts.com/Elbow-Coupling-1/8"/Product/15795>. >>> >>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:00:19 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>> >>>> I was wrong about it not listing the material, it does say it's brass, >>>> so it is almost certainly leaded brass with a nickel coating neither of >>>> which are safe for food. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 7:58:31 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>>> >>>>> I do not have familiarity with that part in my machine, but i do work >>>>> with those kinds of fittings all the time for work and I have a few >>>>> observations. >>>>> >>>>> 1) the part you linked to says its 1/4" tube x 1/8" NPT, but the >>>>> diagram lists all of the threaded connections as 1/4" and the tubing as >>>>> 1/4". The best way to confirm this would be if you have calipers. measure >>>>> the outside diameter of the tube (should be 1/4") then measure the >>>>> outside >>>>> diameter of the threads, if they are NPT Threads >>>>> <https://www.engineersedge.com/hardware/taper-pipe-threads.htm> they >>>>> should be ~0.54" and tapered with 18 threads per inch. However, every >>>>> espresso machine I've worked on (admittedly not that many) uses BSPP/BSPT >>>>> Threads >>>>> <https://www.ryco.com.au/technical/thread-connector-identification/bspt-bspp-threads/>, >>>>> >>>>> and 1/4" would be ~0.51" and 19 threads per inch. It is almost certainly >>>>> BSPP based on the picture and what I can remember about the brewtus I'm >>>>> pretty sure that elbow's threaded side is 1/4" BSPP. NPT and BSPT are >>>>> tapered threads meaning if you look at the threads from the side they >>>>> come >>>>> together as they go away from the fitting, BSPP is parallel thread, >>>>> meaning >>>>> the two sides are straight relative to each other. Parallel threaded >>>>> fittings almost always have an O-ring or gasket where the threads meet >>>>> the >>>>> base of the fitting as well, which can help to identify them. >>>>> >>>>> 2) The tubing side is what's called "Push-to-connect"/PTC/John Guest >>>>> connection, the diagram shows a compression fitting, either one should >>>>> work >>>>> fine in this application, and I'd go for whatever part you can get >>>>> readily. >>>>> >>>>> 3) The part you have in the listing is listed as being for air and >>>>> water, and doesn't list what material it is made of, which since these >>>>> are >>>>> usually used for pneumatics, would likely mean it is made of leaded >>>>> brass, >>>>> and nickel coated. This would make it very not food/beverage safe, and I >>>>> wouldnt put that thing anywhere near something going in my body. >>>>> >>>>> You're best bet is to look something up on McMaster-Carr >>>>> <https://www.mcmaster.com>, they are an industrial supply house that >>>>> carries an absolutely mind boggling assortment of fittings in every >>>>> size/shape/connection you can imagine, and is very easy to search and has >>>>> some of the best search filters I've ever seen, including material, >>>>> connections, fitting type. You can at least use them to narrow down >>>>> exactly >>>>> what you are looking for since almost all of there parts have CAD files, >>>>> and dimensional drawings that you can use to verify the part you have. >>>>> Here's a few that I think would be a better choice assuming it is >>>>> actually >>>>> 1/4" tube x 1/4" BSPP: >>>>> >>>>> Stainless steel PTC swivel elbow, this one has "universal" threads >>>>> meant to work with NPT, BSPP, NPTF, and BSPT so as long as you can >>>>> confirm >>>>> the size of the connection, you don't really need to know what the >>>>> threads >>>>> are. This one doesn't say its food rated, but all of the materials are >>>>> food >>>>> safe. Only for use with hard plastic tubing, which I am pretty sure the >>>>> tubing inside our machines is. >>>>> >>>>> Stainless Steel compression elbow <https://www.mcmaster.com/5672K321>, >>>>> again not listed as food safe, but definitely all food safe materials, >>>>> does't swivel, but very sturdy. Make sure to get the matching tube insert >>>>> if used with soft tubing. >>>>> >>>>> Best of luck! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 12:56:10 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I believe this is #5 on this diagram, but mine seems to be the >>>>>> "upgraded" swiveling design. >>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-01-04 175754.png] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: PXL_20210104_225511977.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> WLL has the Elbow Replacement Kit, which appears to be similar, but >>>>>> they're out of stock, and not responding to support questions: >>>>>> https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/expobar-elbow-replacement-kit >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it this part?: >>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-OD-Tube-to-1-8-NPT-Male-Pneumatic-90-Metal-Elbow-Push-Air-Fitting-3-PCS/254749979007?hash=item3b5048317f:g:L3YAAOSwWl5fiMDs >>>>>> >>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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