Did you have any luck w/ your replacement? WLL confirmed that the NPT is 1/8" and the QD side is accepting a teflon tube is 2x4 (2mm ID & 4mm OD). I found these on Grainger but haven't ordered yet - was hoping to find just a pair I could order:
https://www.grainger.com/product/AIGNEP-USA-4mm-Metal-Swivel-Elbow-1WUV8 On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:54 AM Brian <sharpie.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow that’s an old caliper! Sure looks like 4mm, certainly a possibility. > Just confirm what size and thread type the other end is and you’ll be good > to go. If you start to type “swivel elbows” in the search bar it’ll bring > up something like “push to connect fittings” in the suggested options. > Choose that and then specify your thread type and size and tubing size and > you’ll be good to go. > > > On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 9:02:19 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: > >> [image: 3qiNJb5.jpg] >> >> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:58:19 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: >> >>> Excellent. I believe I'm measuring the OD at 4MM, though. Does that make >>> sense?[image: PXL_20210111_015701709.jpg] >>> >>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:06:29 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry one last thought: >>>> >>>> Looks like the tubing may actually be 6MM OD not 1/4" try to confirm >>>> which one you've got. Parts Guru >>>> <https://shop.partsguru.com/Male-Elbow-1-4M-6mm-Fitting-30400020-30400010.htm> >>>> has >>>> the original part from the diagram, as does Cafe Parts >>>> <https://www.cafeparts.com/Elbow-Coupling-1/8"/Product/15795>. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:00:19 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was wrong about it not listing the material, it does say it's brass, >>>>> so it is almost certainly leaded brass with a nickel coating neither of >>>>> which are safe for food. >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 7:58:31 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I do not have familiarity with that part in my machine, but i do work >>>>>> with those kinds of fittings all the time for work and I have a few >>>>>> observations. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) the part you linked to says its 1/4" tube x 1/8" NPT, but the >>>>>> diagram lists all of the threaded connections as 1/4" and the tubing as >>>>>> 1/4". The best way to confirm this would be if you have calipers. measure >>>>>> the outside diameter of the tube (should be 1/4") then measure the >>>>>> outside >>>>>> diameter of the threads, if they are NPT Threads >>>>>> <https://www.engineersedge.com/hardware/taper-pipe-threads.htm> they >>>>>> should be ~0.54" and tapered with 18 threads per inch. However, every >>>>>> espresso machine I've worked on (admittedly not that many) uses BSPP/BSPT >>>>>> Threads >>>>>> <https://www.ryco.com.au/technical/thread-connector-identification/bspt-bspp-threads/>, >>>>>> and 1/4" would be ~0.51" and 19 threads per inch. It is almost certainly >>>>>> BSPP based on the picture and what I can remember about the brewtus I'm >>>>>> pretty sure that elbow's threaded side is 1/4" BSPP. NPT and BSPT are >>>>>> tapered threads meaning if you look at the threads from the side they >>>>>> come >>>>>> together as they go away from the fitting, BSPP is parallel thread, >>>>>> meaning >>>>>> the two sides are straight relative to each other. Parallel threaded >>>>>> fittings almost always have an O-ring or gasket where the threads meet >>>>>> the >>>>>> base of the fitting as well, which can help to identify them. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) The tubing side is what's called "Push-to-connect"/PTC/John Guest >>>>>> connection, the diagram shows a compression fitting, either one should >>>>>> work >>>>>> fine in this application, and I'd go for whatever part you can get >>>>>> readily. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) The part you have in the listing is listed as being for air and >>>>>> water, and doesn't list what material it is made of, which since these >>>>>> are >>>>>> usually used for pneumatics, would likely mean it is made of leaded >>>>>> brass, >>>>>> and nickel coated. This would make it very not food/beverage safe, and I >>>>>> wouldnt put that thing anywhere near something going in my body. >>>>>> >>>>>> You're best bet is to look something up on McMaster-Carr >>>>>> <https://www.mcmaster.com>, they are an industrial supply house that >>>>>> carries an absolutely mind boggling assortment of fittings in every >>>>>> size/shape/connection you can imagine, and is very easy to search and has >>>>>> some of the best search filters I've ever seen, including material, >>>>>> connections, fitting type. You can at least use them to narrow down >>>>>> exactly >>>>>> what you are looking for since almost all of there parts have CAD files, >>>>>> and dimensional drawings that you can use to verify the part you have. >>>>>> Here's a few that I think would be a better choice assuming it is >>>>>> actually >>>>>> 1/4" tube x 1/4" BSPP: >>>>>> >>>>>> Stainless steel PTC swivel elbow, this one has "universal" threads >>>>>> meant to work with NPT, BSPP, NPTF, and BSPT so as long as you can >>>>>> confirm >>>>>> the size of the connection, you don't really need to know what the >>>>>> threads >>>>>> are. This one doesn't say its food rated, but all of the materials are >>>>>> food >>>>>> safe. Only for use with hard plastic tubing, which I am pretty sure the >>>>>> tubing inside our machines is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stainless Steel compression elbow <https://www.mcmaster.com/5672K321>, >>>>>> again not listed as food safe, but definitely all food safe materials, >>>>>> does't swivel, but very sturdy. Make sure to get the matching tube insert >>>>>> if used with soft tubing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best of luck! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 12:56:10 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe this is #5 on this diagram, but mine seems to be the >>>>>>> "upgraded" swiveling design. >>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-01-04 175754.png] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: PXL_20210104_225511977.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WLL has the Elbow Replacement Kit, which appears to be similar, but >>>>>>> they're out of stock, and not responding to support questions: >>>>>>> https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/expobar-elbow-replacement-kit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is it this part?: >>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-OD-Tube-to-1-8-NPT-Male-Pneumatic-90-Metal-Elbow-Push-Air-Fitting-3-PCS/254749979007?hash=item3b5048317f:g:L3YAAOSwWl5fiMDs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Brewtus" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to brewtus+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/bb4fc555-d658-4c11-ba11-bc61f51bfc98n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/bb4fc555-d658-4c11-ba11-bc61f51bfc98n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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