Excellent! Thanks for the update! On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 6:22:33 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
> No worries. I did end up ordering that pack of elbows from Grainger and > it is a perfect fit. 4mm Metal Swivel Elbow, 90 Degrees > > However this part is nickel plated brass which is not NSF rated. Since > it's such a small portion of water in my daily intake I'm not too worried > about it but will eventually find a stainless option - probably whenever > manufacturers' supplies get back to normal. Until then - enjoying no leaks! > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 5:59 PM Wilson007 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sorry, I haven't been checking this thread. I bought part number 7610n127 >> from mcmaster carr (https://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/127/244) and the >> sizing was all wrong. Did you try the part from Grainger and did it work? >> >> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021 at 12:08:37 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> Did you have any luck w/ your replacement? >>> WLL confirmed that the NPT is 1/8" and the QD side is accepting a teflon >>> tube is 2x4 (2mm ID & 4mm OD). >>> I found these on Grainger but haven't ordered yet - was hoping to find >>> just a pair I could order: >>> >>> https://www.grainger.com/product/AIGNEP-USA-4mm-Metal-Swivel-Elbow-1WUV8 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:54 AM Brian <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Wow that’s an old caliper! Sure looks like 4mm, certainly a >>>> possibility. Just confirm what size and thread type the other end is and >>>> you’ll be good to go. If you start to type “swivel elbows” in the search >>>> bar it’ll bring up something like “push to connect fittings” in the >>>> suggested options. Choose that and then specify your thread type and size >>>> and tubing size and you’ll be good to go. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 9:02:19 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: >>>> >>>>> [image: 3qiNJb5.jpg] >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:58:19 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Excellent. I believe I'm measuring the OD at 4MM, though. Does that >>>>>> make sense?[image: PXL_20210111_015701709.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:06:29 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry one last thought: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks like the tubing may actually be 6MM OD not 1/4" try to confirm >>>>>>> which one you've got. Parts Guru >>>>>>> <https://shop.partsguru.com/Male-Elbow-1-4M-6mm-Fitting-30400020-30400010.htm> >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> the original part from the diagram, as does Cafe Parts >>>>>>> <https://www.cafeparts.com/Elbow-Coupling-1/8"/Product/15795>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 8:00:19 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was wrong about it not listing the material, it does say it's >>>>>>>> brass, so it is almost certainly leaded brass with a nickel coating >>>>>>>> neither >>>>>>>> of which are safe for food. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 7:58:31 PM UTC-5 Brian wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I do not have familiarity with that part in my machine, but i do >>>>>>>>> work with those kinds of fittings all the time for work and I have a >>>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>>> observations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) the part you linked to says its 1/4" tube x 1/8" NPT, but the >>>>>>>>> diagram lists all of the threaded connections as 1/4" and the tubing >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> 1/4". The best way to confirm this would be if you have calipers. >>>>>>>>> measure >>>>>>>>> the outside diameter of the tube (should be 1/4") then measure the >>>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>>> diameter of the threads, if they are NPT Threads >>>>>>>>> <https://www.engineersedge.com/hardware/taper-pipe-threads.htm> they >>>>>>>>> should be ~0.54" and tapered with 18 threads per inch. However, every >>>>>>>>> espresso machine I've worked on (admittedly not that many) uses >>>>>>>>> BSPP/BSPT >>>>>>>>> Threads >>>>>>>>> <https://www.ryco.com.au/technical/thread-connector-identification/bspt-bspp-threads/>, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> and 1/4" would be ~0.51" and 19 threads per inch. It is almost >>>>>>>>> certainly >>>>>>>>> BSPP based on the picture and what I can remember about the brewtus >>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>> pretty sure that elbow's threaded side is 1/4" BSPP. NPT and BSPT are >>>>>>>>> tapered threads meaning if you look at the threads from the side they >>>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>>> together as they go away from the fitting, BSPP is parallel thread, >>>>>>>>> meaning >>>>>>>>> the two sides are straight relative to each other. Parallel threaded >>>>>>>>> fittings almost always have an O-ring or gasket where the threads >>>>>>>>> meet the >>>>>>>>> base of the fitting as well, which can help to identify them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2) The tubing side is what's called "Push-to-connect"/PTC/John >>>>>>>>> Guest connection, the diagram shows a compression fitting, either one >>>>>>>>> should work fine in this application, and I'd go for whatever part >>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>> get readily. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 3) The part you have in the listing is listed as being for air and >>>>>>>>> water, and doesn't list what material it is made of, which since >>>>>>>>> these are >>>>>>>>> usually used for pneumatics, would likely mean it is made of leaded >>>>>>>>> brass, >>>>>>>>> and nickel coated. This would make it very not food/beverage safe, >>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>> wouldnt put that thing anywhere near something going in my body. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You're best bet is to look something up on McMaster-Carr >>>>>>>>> <https://www.mcmaster.com>, they are an industrial supply house >>>>>>>>> that carries an absolutely mind boggling assortment of fittings in >>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>> size/shape/connection you can imagine, and is very easy to search and >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>> some of the best search filters I've ever seen, including material, >>>>>>>>> connections, fitting type. You can at least use them to narrow down >>>>>>>>> exactly >>>>>>>>> what you are looking for since almost all of there parts have CAD >>>>>>>>> files, >>>>>>>>> and dimensional drawings that you can use to verify the part you >>>>>>>>> have. >>>>>>>>> Here's a few that I think would be a better choice assuming it is >>>>>>>>> actually >>>>>>>>> 1/4" tube x 1/4" BSPP: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stainless steel PTC swivel elbow, this one has "universal" >>>>>>>>> threads meant to work with NPT, BSPP, NPTF, and BSPT so as long as >>>>>>>>> you can >>>>>>>>> confirm the size of the connection, you don't really need to know >>>>>>>>> what the >>>>>>>>> threads are. This one doesn't say its food rated, but all of the >>>>>>>>> materials >>>>>>>>> are food safe. Only for use with hard plastic tubing, which I am >>>>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>>>> sure the tubing inside our machines is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stainless Steel compression elbow >>>>>>>>> <https://www.mcmaster.com/5672K321>, again not listed as food >>>>>>>>> safe, but definitely all food safe materials, does't swivel, but very >>>>>>>>> sturdy. Make sure to get the matching tube insert if used with soft >>>>>>>>> tubing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best of luck! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 12:56:10 PM UTC-5 Wilson007 wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I believe this is #5 on this diagram, but mine seems to be the >>>>>>>>>> "upgraded" swiveling design. >>>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-01-04 175754.png] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [image: PXL_20210104_225511977.jpg] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WLL has the Elbow Replacement Kit, which appears to be similar, >>>>>>>>>> but they're out of stock, and not responding to support questions: >>>>>>>>>> https://www.wholelattelove.com/products/expobar-elbow-replacement-kit >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is it this part?: >>>>>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-4-OD-Tube-to-1-8-NPT-Male-Pneumatic-90-Metal-Elbow-Push-Air-Fitting-3-PCS/254749979007?hash=item3b5048317f:g:L3YAAOSwWl5fiMDs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Brewtus" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/bb4fc555-d658-4c11-ba11-bc61f51bfc98n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/bb4fc555-d658-4c11-ba11-bc61f51bfc98n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Brewtus" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/18a2b142-2318-4c38-a6b8-c214256722f6n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/brewtus/18a2b142-2318-4c38-a6b8-c214256722f6n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Brewtus" group. 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