Jeroen--
You are doing it again. I got a copy of the message below,
which I am not interested in at all. It did not come from either
list, where it would have been fine. I sort lists into folders, and
read them as time allows.
Please REMOVE me from all of your "Recipient list suppressed"
mailing lists.
---David Hobby
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Subject:
Spam van Baardwijk
Date:
Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:47:32 +0200
From:
Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
(Recipient list suppressed)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Crystall wrote:
> And I think I'll find out if your ISP likes it's members spamming.
Ooohhh! A threat!
> Mine wasn't amused about your complaint.
So, what exactly did your ISP do in response to my complaint about your
personal attacks? Terminate your account with them? Give you a warning
and
tell you that if it would happen again they'd terminate your account?
> I never opted-in to receive your E-mails.
You *replied* to my e-mail. When you reply you can expect to receive a
response. That's close enough to opt-in to *qualify* as opt-in.
BTW, I never opted-in to old-Brin-L to become the target of endless
harrassment by people like you, Arnett and Giorgis. But it happened
anyway.
Over and over again. And for some unknown reason, no list admin ever did
anything to stop *that*...
> The standard these days for maling lists is a double opt-in. What
> you are doing is spam, plain and simple. Oh right, better see what
> NANAE have to say about that as well.
And what exactly makes you think I'd actually care what some people in
some
obscure and unimportant newsgroup think?
> (Hint: being banned is supposed to send a message to you about the
> fact that we DON'T want to read your E-mails).
There were only four or five people who wanted me banned, and even
*they*
couldn't agree on whether it should be temporary or permanent. The vast
majority did NOT speak out in favour of banning me. IOW, you are not in
any
position to claim that the "we" in your statement (the list as a whole)
wanted me banned.
The "message" was not saying that the combined members of old-Brin-L
didn't
want to read my messages (they could easily have ignored them), the
message
clearly said that Arnett would not tolerate people standing up against
harrassment by one of his cronies. For obvious reasons you can't throw
*him* out, but you can always vote with your feet. The New & Improved
Brin-L (www.brin-l.com) is only a few mouseclicks away.
> And...this E-mail, intended for you, is CC'd to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Um, what does the esteemed postmaster at brin-l.com have to do with it?
It's not like my replies to on-list messages are sent from the
brin-l.com
domain.
(BTW, messages sent to addresses in the brin-l.com domain are known to
sometimes bounce, even when the address *does* exist and no filter is in
place. You may have to re-send.)
> I'll stop the moment you stop sending me E-mails.
Want me to stop? Contact Arnett and tell him to lift that ridiculous ban
he
unilaterally imposed. I will then be able to respond on-list to on-list
messages, which you can then ignore all you want.
Jeroen van Baardwijk
Listowner, The New & Improved Brin-L
www.brin-l.com
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