Why are these messages showing up in my mailbox? What do they have to do with the discussion of David Brin's works and science fiction in general?
> Jeroen-- > You are doing it again. I got a copy of the message below, > which I am not interested in at all. It did not come from either > list, where it would have been fine. I sort lists into folders, and > read them as time allows. > Please REMOVE me from all of your "Recipient list suppressed" > mailing lists. > ---David Hobby > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: > Spam van Baardwijk > Date: > Mon, 09 Jun 2003 16:47:32 +0200 > From: > Jeroen van Baardwijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > (Recipient list suppressed) > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Crystall wrote: > > > And I think I'll find out if your ISP likes it's members spamming. > > Ooohhh! A threat! > > > > Mine wasn't amused about your complaint. > > So, what exactly did your ISP do in response to my complaint about your > personal attacks? Terminate your account with them? Give you a warning > and > tell you that if it would happen again they'd terminate your account? > > > > I never opted-in to receive your E-mails. > > You *replied* to my e-mail. When you reply you can expect to receive a > response. That's close enough to opt-in to *qualify* as opt-in. > > BTW, I never opted-in to old-Brin-L to become the target of endless > harrassment by people like you, Arnett and Giorgis. But it happened > anyway. > Over and over again. And for some unknown reason, no list admin ever did > anything to stop *that*... > > > > The standard these days for maling lists is a double opt-in. What you > are doing is spam, plain and simple. Oh right, better see what NANAE > have to say about that as well. > > And what exactly makes you think I'd actually care what some people in > some > obscure and unimportant newsgroup think? > > > > (Hint: being banned is supposed to send a message to you about the > fact that we DON'T want to read your E-mails). > > There were only four or five people who wanted me banned, and even > *they* > couldn't agree on whether it should be temporary or permanent. The vast > majority did NOT speak out in favour of banning me. IOW, you are not in > any > position to claim that the "we" in your statement (the list as a whole) > wanted me banned. > > The "message" was not saying that the combined members of old-Brin-L > didn't > want to read my messages (they could easily have ignored them), the > message > clearly said that Arnett would not tolerate people standing up against > harrassment by one of his cronies. For obvious reasons you can't throw > *him* out, but you can always vote with your feet. The New & Improved > Brin-L (www.brin-l.com) is only a few mouseclicks away. > > > > And...this E-mail, intended for you, is CC'd to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Um, what does the esteemed postmaster at brin-l.com have to do with it? > It's not like my replies to on-list messages are sent from the > brin-l.com > domain. > > (BTW, messages sent to addresses in the brin-l.com domain are known to > sometimes bounce, even when the address *does* exist and no filter is in > place. You may have to re-send.) > > > > I'll stop the moment you stop sending me E-mails. > > Want me to stop? Contact Arnett and tell him to lift that ridiculous ban > he > unilaterally imposed. I will then be able to respond on-list to on-list > messages, which you can then ignore all you want. > > > Jeroen van Baardwijk > Listowner, The New & Improved Brin-L > www.brin-l.com > > > [Sponsored by:] > _____________________________________________________________________________ > The newest lyrics on the Net! > > http://lyrics.astraweb.com > > Click NOW! [Sponsored by:] _____________________________________________________________________________ The newest lyrics on the Net! http://lyrics.astraweb.com Click NOW!
