Please forgive me for a moment while I refute the accusations of dendrite,
aka xponent, aka rob................

>Maybe you missed this John. But *Buchannan* says there is no way he got that
>many votes in that county.

Actually, I watched it live on the Today Show.   Admittedly, I have been
away from television for the past few days, but I have read reports that he
too has since backed away from those statements.

>The idea that you would have second thoughts was very predictable.
>Even one of your 19,000 "idiots" could have seen that coming.

I think my history of re-examining issues speaks for itself.

>That you attempt to propogandize to the list by posting lists of links
>multiple times each day, 

rob later wrote:
>And I would find Johns posting of links interesting if there were not so
>damn many of them (and that they were'nt so obviously slanted,

Propogandize?    Obviously slanted?

I actually went back and checked the links I have sent.  They are:

Palm Beach Post
Florida Election Statute
CNN.com
Slate.com
Raleigh News and Observer (Associated Press) (2)
Salon.com (same link twice)
National Review Reprinting of a Palm Beach Post Article
Washington Times
Bush Campaign
National Review (3)

As you can see, Slate.com and Salon.com are both left-leaning opinion
journals.    Of the National Review links, I also counted my reprint of
Buckley's opnions, which was not technically a link.    Nevertheless, one
of the NR articles was not properly an opinion piece, but a listing of
previous court rulings on the subject of elections.  Additionally, I
clipped the propoganda section of the Bush Campaign piece, and left only
the links to the Palm Beach Post, editorials from various newspapers, and
the statement of Mr. Baker.

I think the final count of my links shows that I was merely passing along
interesting developments that I had found of a subject that was under list
discussion.

Finally, I think it is only fair to point out that I was the first person
on this list to note that Florida should not be given to Bush (even before
it was officially done in the media) and I also have experssed my suspicion
of the Florida numbers, and continue to hold that the use of butterfly
ballots are discontinued.   I continue to harbor my doubts about the
accuracy of the Palm Beach County vote count, and its reflection of the
will of the people, and *only* oppose revotes and hand counts on
*procedural* grounds, in that neither a revote nor a hand count is more
likely to reflect the will of the people than a mechanical recount.

If it was possible to turn back time, and take an accurate snap shot of the
Palm Beach County voters' intentions on a better-designed ballot, I would
be all for it.

>*as if you could change anyones mind*, 

I can, and do.    That's why engage in political debates.   Out of
curiosity, why do you engage in political debates.

>says a lot
>about your opinion of the people here, and the general level of intelligence
>of listmembers, regardless of what you may say to the contrary.

Indeed, it shows that I value their intelligence so much that I consider it
important to debate these issues with them.   Why would I bother trying to
convince the minds of people that I have a low opinion of?   

>John, you are a friend, and I respect your opinions and your right to
>express them. But I am not interested in being spammed by my friends.

I again went back and counted my messages.  28 in four days.  An average of
7 a day.   This counts as spam?    I know you've been on this list long
enough to remember when seven posts a day was de rigeur.

If you don't like what I have to say rob, don't read it, and don't discuss
it.   Just like the abortion issue - if nobody wants to talk about it, it
will just go away.   I have always been extremely dilligent in my subject
headings, so you have nothing to worry.

More importantly, if you have an issue with how I (or anybody else) conduct
myself on tis List, why don't you contact me off-list?    Chewing me (or
anybody else) out in public is unlikely to get you anywhere, other than
simply making me (or anybody else) rather upset - and there's no need for
that.

Sincerely,

John D. Giorgis


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