----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: It's Time.....
> Please forgive me for a moment while I refute the accusations of dendrite,
> aka xponent, aka rob................
>
> >Maybe you missed this John. But *Buchannan* says there is no way he got
that
> >many votes in that county.
>
> Actually, I watched it live on the Today Show. Admittedly, I have been
> away from television for the past few days, but I have read reports that
he
> too has since backed away from those statements.
>
> >The idea that you would have second thoughts was very predictable.
> >Even one of your 19,000 "idiots" could have seen that coming.
>
> I think my history of re-examining issues speaks for itself.
>
> >That you attempt to propogandize to the list by posting lists of links
> >multiple times each day,
>
> rob later wrote:
> >And I would find Johns posting of links interesting if there were not so
> >damn many of them (and that they were'nt so obviously slanted,
>
> Propogandize? Obviously slanted?
>
> I actually went back and checked the links I have sent. They are:
>
> Palm Beach Post
> Florida Election Statute
> CNN.com
> Slate.com
> Raleigh News and Observer (Associated Press) (2)
> Salon.com (same link twice)
> National Review Reprinting of a Palm Beach Post Article
> Washington Times
> Bush Campaign
> National Review (3)
>
> As you can see, Slate.com and Salon.com are both left-leaning opinion
> journals. Of the National Review links, I also counted my reprint of
> Buckley's opnions, which was not technically a link. Nevertheless, one
> of the NR articles was not properly an opinion piece, but a listing of
> previous court rulings on the subject of elections. Additionally, I
> clipped the propoganda section of the Bush Campaign piece, and left only
> the links to the Palm Beach Post, editorials from various newspapers, and
> the statement of Mr. Baker.
>
> I think the final count of my links shows that I was merely passing along
> interesting developments that I had found of a subject that was under list
> discussion.
>
> Finally, I think it is only fair to point out that I was the first person
> on this list to note that Florida should not be given to Bush (even before
> it was officially done in the media) and I also have experssed my
suspicion
> of the Florida numbers, and continue to hold that the use of butterfly
> ballots are discontinued. I continue to harbor my doubts about the
> accuracy of the Palm Beach County vote count, and its reflection of the
> will of the people, and *only* oppose revotes and hand counts on
> *procedural* grounds, in that neither a revote nor a hand count is more
> likely to reflect the will of the people than a mechanical recount.
>
> If it was possible to turn back time, and take an accurate snap shot of
the
> Palm Beach County voters' intentions on a better-designed ballot, I would
> be all for it.
>
> >*as if you could change anyones mind*,
>
> I can, and do. That's why engage in political debates. Out of
> curiosity, why do you engage in political debates.
>
> >says a lot
> >about your opinion of the people here, and the general level of
intelligence
> >of listmembers, regardless of what you may say to the contrary.
>
> Indeed, it shows that I value their intelligence so much that I consider
it
> important to debate these issues with them. Why would I bother trying to
> convince the minds of people that I have a low opinion of?
>
> >John, you are a friend, and I respect your opinions and your right to
> >express them. But I am not interested in being spammed by my friends.
>
> I again went back and counted my messages. 28 in four days. An average
of
> 7 a day. This counts as spam? I know you've been on this list long
> enough to remember when seven posts a day was de rigeur.
>
> If you don't like what I have to say rob, don't read it, and don't discuss
> it. Just like the abortion issue - if nobody wants to talk about it, it
> will just go away. I have always been extremely dilligent in my subject
> headings, so you have nothing to worry.
>
> More importantly, if you have an issue with how I (or anybody else)
conduct
> myself on tis List, why don't you contact me off-list? Chewing me (or
> anybody else) out in public is unlikely to get you anywhere, other than
> simply making me (or anybody else) rather upset - and there's no need for
> that.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John D. Giorgis
>
You're right John, my tone was way too harsh.
rob
