Julia Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>who's trying to decide which is worse -- the kicking, or the rumbling
>around when someone decides to move in a more leisurely fashion

Susan mentioned to me her dismay at reading in an article that that, 
"children don't attempt to manipulate their parents until at least 12 
months" (or something) when it's been obvious from experience that they 
start much earlier. It seems obvious - responding to every whine and cry is 
going to reinforce that behavior. Yes, it's at a subconscious level, but 
<insert argument that 99% of what we do is subconscious here>.

I wonder how far back that goes, though. Could that someone be trained out 
of kicking and/or rumbling so much? Is there a certain subtle response that 
the adult(s) present that might reinforce the behavior?

Just curious,

Joshua

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