At 12:23 PM 3/4/01 -0800, Doug wrote:
>
>
>"John D. Giorgis" wrote:
>> 
>> At 03:40 AM 3/4/01 EST, you wrote:
>> >>>>
>> 
>>      You say it is
>>      wrong for Russians to spy on us, but it is ok for us to spy on
them. You
>>      claimed the reason was that we (USA) were "morally superior" without
>>      clarification.
>> 
>> <<<<
>> 
>> Actually, I have said no such thing.
>> 
>> All I did was *ask* if spying would be justified by a nation that *is*
holier-than-thou, because (surprisingly) I did not yet have an opinion on
the issue.
>
>That's a cute debating tactic, John, but from the beginning of this argument
>you implied that the U.S. was morally superior so unless you came out and
said
>that "I don't think that the U.S. is morally superior" then the rest of us
>have to assume that you are arguing on behalf of the U.S.  As in the
following
>quote from one of your posts:

Yes, I do think that the United States is morally superior to Russia.    I
also believe that morally superior individuals are often morally justified
in killing, when others are not.   I just don't know if that also extends
to justification to spy, when others are not.

The problem of course, is that Dolphin and yourself have been getting
completely hung-up on the first two poitns: "whether the US is morally
superior" and "if the morally superior have a different code of ethics than
others" that has made it impossible to address the third point, which is an
extension of the first two.

JDG - Who doesn't know why everyone is having such a hard time with this.

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John D. Giorgis       -         [EMAIL PROTECTED]      -        ICQ #3527685
   "The point of living in a Republic after all, is that we do not live by 
   majority rule.   We live by laws and a variety of isntitutions designed 
                  to check each other." -Andrew Sullivan 01/29/01

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