"John D. Giorgis" schreef:
> At 05:48 PM 5/23/01 +0200 Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote:
> >> I am therfore arguing that arrogance might reasonably stem from pride in
> >> one's accomplishments. Thus, I am pointing out that Americans have a
> >> great many accomplishments that one might reasonably take pride in.
> >
> >Are you claiming total ignorance in not knowing the difference between
> arrogance
> >and pride? :o)
>
> No..... I am arguing that since Kat's thesis presumes the existence of
> arrogance, that the most likely *origins* of arrogance is pride. That is
> not to say that pride necessarily produces arrogance - just that it is the
> most reasonable origin for arrogance.
Let's take this back to the beginning. It was a remark from me that caused Dan
to ask why there was so much hostillity against Americans and their points of
view from non-Americans like me and Jeroen. At which point Kat jumped in and
saved me a great deal of typing. Basically she suggested that it might be the
ignorantly displayed arrogance by Americans against other occupants of this
Earth that might be the cause for such behaviour. At which point you
_litterally_ claimed that American's had many quote <reasons to be arrogant>.
And that is how I interpreted your resulting post with listed accomplishments
by Americans as a reason for arrogance. The kind of post which in my opinion
illustrates exactly the kind of rediculously typical American behaviour that on
many occasions makes many of us double up with laughter. Btw in the mean time a
lot of the items in that post have been stricken because they weren't sole or
major American accomplishements at all. Hence my question if you really think
that arrogance is the way to go. I would have granted you the right to be
proud, but as Dan and Marving already pointed out justification for arrogance
is a rather sore spot to most of us.
Sonja
