: At this point, I am just ready to throw up my hands
: and concede that the lot of you just have an
: irrational revulsion of America.  I would prefer not
: to believe that, and certainly hope to not believe
: that - but when I post a serious argument that America
: is "great" and receive 5 insults and one very narrow
: substantive rebuttal; and when I post that "America is
: a net source of good" and get only waffling; I don't
: know what else to do.

Well, how about being a little less arrogant and a little humbler about it?
Not that I mean to accuse you of that, John, but so many of your countrymen
exhibit that.  Personally I find that the least attractive point about
Americans.  We *know* we have much to be thankful to the American people
for - but when you walk around crowing about 'aren't we great' and almost
demanding hommage, it's rather hard to take.

Marc

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