----- Original Message -----
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: The "problem" with the list.


> At 11:03 AM 6/24/01 -0600 Michael Harney wrote:
> >So, I move to add an amendment to the list policy of "All is Brin".  I
move
> >that we amend it to say "All is Brin except politics".  If we wish to
> >discuss the policital systems of Sci-fi Novels, that's fine, but let's
keep
> >real world politics out of the discussion.
>
> Oh please.
>
> How can you even discuss Brin without mentioning politics?
>
> I have an archive of every single post Dr. Brin has made to the List since
> my arrival.   Would you care to wager what percentage of those posts
> concerned "politics", and which of those did not?
>
> When Brin writes a book like, oh, _The Transparent Society_, then what
does
> the List do?

Would you care to amend this bill or pose an alternative one.  Perhaps you
should suggest to reword it to "No posts should be exclusively political in
nature" or "All politically natured posts must have a *direct* connection to
the topic of a book by Brin or Benford and such connection must be made in
the post." (of course this opens up a nasty old loophole for
environmentalist discussion with "Earth" and the second Uplift trilogy, but
as long as we require the post and all replies to be relivant to the book
itself, it should stay under control).

> Of course, you might point out that Dr. Brin hisself is no longer on this
> List - to which, of course, I would point out that Dr. Brin is no longer
> here thanks to a discussion about one of his novels.

I had a discussion with Brin off-list about why he left the list.  His
descision had little to do with the flame war that occured, the flame war
simply prompted him to act sooner upon the decision.  I would also point out
that the flame war may have started because of discussion about one of his
books (I don't know, I missed what started the flame war), but had nothing
to do with the book itself.

The Dolphin
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