On 17 Jul 2001, at 17:01, K.Feete wrote:
> >Asmiov, _The Gods Themselves_
>
> Eh, yes, but when the solution is something like "stop using so much
> stuff" people actually *prefer* the problem. It's not that "we"
> greeners are short on solutions; it's that we're short on ways of
> getting people to *impliment* solutions. Not in all cases, but in at
> least a few.
>
> I realize it's a major problem within the environmental movement (and
> believe me, I have pointed this out) that we're better at presenting
> problems than solutions. Nor are all solutions particularly realistic.
>
> No
> one appears to be interested in a "solution" that involves them not
> owning a car, for example; no one likes a solution that involves the
> price of gas going up; no one, in short, likes solutions that may make
> a major change in their way of life.
True. What WE suggest is that legislation forces car
manufacturers, from, say 6 months time to use Fuel Cells, NOT
conventional engines in all their cars.
So new cars cost a bit more...people WILL accept that, and the
befefits will filter down through the years as a greater and greater
percentage HAVE fuel cells..
> No one likes a paradigm shift...
What paradigm shift? I don't see any happening. Actually, I see
things getting WORSE in America. At least they're TRYING in
Europe...
> the more I learn about the environmental problems we're facing the
> more it seems that patching what we've got isn't going to work. We're
> actually going to have to change. Or we'll be changed.
Yes, there is that. I've see the figures, I mught add..I don't believe
we CAN chage fast enough. Which is why my organisation is
putting over half its funds right now into helping the establushment
of capitive breeding programs and artificial enviroments in the most
threatened ecosystems of the world...
> problem, or the heartily reassuring appearance of trained protestors
> demanding that free trade be regulated by at least *some* sense of
> morality.
Uh-huh. You mean the whackos who riot every time world leaders
meet? Sorry, all THEY do is give themselves (and since some are
greeners, enviromentalism!) a bad name.
Andy
Dawn Falcon
