On 18 Jul 2001, at 21:37, John D. Giorgis wrote:

> At 06:39 PM 7/18/01 +0100 Andrew Crystall wrote:
> >pfffffffffft. About $300 per car, MAXIMUM, and about the same 
> >performance impact as switching from leaded to unleaded. 
> >Remembering you can ditch a lot of the current measures like cat
> >converters because they're *not needed* with a fuel cell.
> 
> You have a cite for that?    If you mean to tell me that two cars of
> comparable size and performance can be separated by only $300 and
> tremendously lower emissions, I will have to read it to believe it.
> 
> You wouldn't *NEED* a government regulation to sell this kind of car.

Sure you would. Any idea how much switching designs would cost 
the Car industry. And the oil industry has vested interests as well. 
That's for mass production, BTW...limited production would cost 
much more.
 
> >Look, I'm willing to argue a point, but not when you go off in 
> >capitalist ranting.
> 
> Well, you're the same person who thinks that we are just a short ways
> away from risk-free space launches, so we should start preparing to
> send nuclear waste to the sun.   

Nope...

I believe we'll have commercial carrage to space within a 
decade..projects out there HAVE the potential and are building 
NOW. And risk free? no...and we'd need several DECADES of 
data. Not that long in historical terms...

And frankly, nuclear waste is a secondary problem, we don't 
generate enough to make real problems for ourselves anyway...

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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