On Friday, July 20, 2001 at 04:47:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Russell Chapman wrote:
> 
> >> At 11:48 PM 7/18/01 +1200 K.Feete wrote:
> >> >the protests have been remarkably violence-free, concentrating on
> >> >property distruction or the like.
> >
> >Does anyone know what it is they want? I've never heard any report which said
> >"these protestors are seeking xyz". Can they really stand there day after day
> >just saying "I don't like big business"?
> >Surely when someone somewhere at some point convinced these people to go out
> >and smash stuff, they gave a reason, or a goal - some sort of justification?
> 
> Just off the top of my head, one related organization:
> 
> http://www.adbusters.org/
> 
> As far as the Seattle protests go, though it wasn't documented in the 
> conventional media, the protesters wanted an end to WTO talks that would 
> prevent "trade barriers" being put into place by any country for goods 
> the country might consider undesirable for a "non-trade" reason. This 
> includes tariffs on or banning of genetically engineered food or (the 
> minor one that got a lot of press) the labelling of fish as 
> "dolphin-free." Basically it says the consumers are on their own. 
> 
> I have to wonder about this. Does this mean, for example, that the US 
> couldn't boycott China for human rights abuses? (Not that they would.) 
> And if so, how is the continuing trade embargo on Cuba justified? Not to 
> mention the "War on Drugs," pursued for distinctly non-trade reasons. But 
> I don't really understand these things, as everybody so enjoys pointing 
> out. <grin>
> 
> Kat Feete

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Just to try and see what you are talking about I went to this adbusters site....that 
was 20 minutes I'll never get back. So they get this idea in their heads that 
Americans and/or the world is being brainwashed, which gives them the right to 
vandalize property to try and break the brainwashing? Your holding them up as an 
example of a 'good' protest org?

Your last two paragraphs I need clarification on. 'They want to end WTO talks that 
would prevent "trade barriers" being put into place for non-trade reasons.' So the 
protesters support "trade barriers" for non-trade reasons? Why?

Kevin Tarr
Trump high, lead low

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