RE: BRIN-L digest 1917 Another police station gone

[Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLBD/BGM/SVM/SGM]

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> Van: Halupovich Ilana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:41 AM
> Aan: Brin-l
> Onderwerp: RE: BRIN-L digest 1917 Another police station gone
 
> > <<I really don't understand the policy Israel is currently enacting
> > to control the violence - how does bombing a police station help
> > the Palestinians control terrorism?>>
 
> It does not. It helps Israelis to control Palestinian terrorism
 
How? How does bombing Palestinian targets help control Palestinian
terrorism? Are you really so naive as to think that Israel can *bomb* the
Palestinians into submission? This kind of behaviour will only lead to more
attacks: Palestinians will retaliate for this bombing, Israel will respond
to the retaliation with yet another strike, which will lead to yet another
retaliation, etcetera.
 
 
> > <<How does killing their leadership help the Palestinians to exert
> > leadership over dissident factions?>>
 
> Hoping against all hope that new leadership would not support
> terrorist acts?
 
And you really believe that there will be no retaliation when Israel kills
Palestinian leaders? No matter who you put in charge, there will always be
factions that disagree with your choice, and will continue to attack Israel.
 
 
> > <<How does continuing to use excessive force against an angry
> > people engender anything other than more hatred and fear, leading
> > to further acts of violence against the only targets they can
> > attack and  with the only means at their disposal?>>
 
> I thought about asking you to define "excessive", but then - the
> simple answer is - "because it helps".
 
Let's see. The peace process is still going nowhere. Palestinians still
attack Israeli targets, and Israel still attacks Palestinian targets. It
seems like hardly a week goes by that we do not hear of more bombings and
killings. Now, how exactly does Israel's excessive violence help anything?
The only thing it is "helpful" with is giving Israel a bad reputation for
being violent and agressive.
 
Check your history books, Ilana. Excessive violence has never been a
successful way of getting what you want.
 
 
> The simple fact is - intifada started after Israel run from Lebanon
> and Palestinians saw, that Israeli Army is not as strong as they used
> to think it to be.
 
AFAIK, the Intifadah started because the Palestinians were sick and tired of
being oppressed by Israel, and living in an area that is under Israeli
occupation.
 
 
> > <<Could somebody explain it to me?  Seriously, if I'm missing
> > something, I would very much like to be informed..>>
 
> You using logic. There is nothing logical in religious war. As I see
> it - Palestinians want to destroy my country.
 
At least *you* have a country. The Palestinians want to have their own
country too (just like your people did), but your country denies them the
right to have their own country.
 
 
> And my government is busy trying to save Palestinian lives instead of
> thinking of it's people first.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but last I heard, many Palestinian lives were
*lost* due to Israeli agression, not *saved* by it. So, how is Israel's
agression towards Palestinians saving Palestinian lives? How is bombing
Palestinian police stations saving Palestinian lives?
 
 
> Two more Israelis murdered last night.
 
And how many Palestinians have been killed by Israel since the State of
Israel was founded?
 
 
Jeroen
 
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