----- Original Message ----- From: "Trent Shipley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brin-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:28 AM Subject: Re: Tragedy in Israel
> My memory might be wrong but the Jewish and Arab populations in Israel and > the territories are of comparable magnitude with the Jewish population being > somewhat larger. > > The Zionists currently enjoy a kill ratio of better than six to one. Deaths > are numbers in scores for Israel, hundreds for Palestinians, and thousands > for the US. > > In statistical or epidimiological terms all the losses are non-trival but > *very* low on the list of causes of death. The *insult* to national pride > and the sense of security is where the rational scholar looks not at the > epidemiological cost. > > Russia in WWII or France in WWI ... now *those* were epidemiologial disasters. > > > Look, I choose to discount the Zionist claim to some sort of > incontrivertable, inalienable deed to a patch of dirt in Eurasia as so much > myth and absurdly ancient history. > > The Zionists had and have a program that required colonizing territory at the > expense of a relatively strong and sophisticated indigenous Arab people. > These sorts of colonial projects have been very successful when the > colonizers resorted to genocide, ethnic cleansing, ethnocide by forced > assimilation, or ethnic apartheid. > > Israel has a few choices. > > First cut the territories lose. A treaty is nice but not necessary. This > will actually *increase* insecurity in Israel. However, Israel will be able > to characterize the acts as illegal inter-state agression. Currently > terrorism by the Palestinians is **legitimate** because it is an act of war > in a campaign of national liberation against an infinitely stronger colonial > and imperial force of occupation. > > Let me repeat that: ANY action by Palestinians is justified because they are > legitimately in a war of national liberation against absurd odds. > So, you are opposed to the Geneva convention? Were the attacks in '48, '56, '67, and '73 also justified? Does Israel have a right to exist? Dan M.
