> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: John D. Giorgis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Verzonden: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 03:23
> Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Onderwerp: Re: Tragedy in Israel

> >No, I do not suggest that Israel winning is wrong, I said that keeping
> >other countries' territories occupied and its inhabitants oppressed is
> >wrong.
> 
> I see nothing wrong with it when said country thrice declared war on
> Israel (the last time, doing so in a particularly reprehensible manner
> manner during a religious day of atonement), and said country still
> refuses to sign a peace treaty with Israel.

IOW, you think it is OK to oppress millions of civilians because their
government refuses to sign a peace treaty with Israel.

<shudder>


> Earlier you compared this situation to Iraq.   Saddam Hussein very
> quickly submitted his unconditional surrender, and he pretty much got 
> his country left intact.

That is questionable. IIRC, more bombs were dropped by the Allies in the
Gulf War than by all parties combined in WW2. All those bombs and missiles
must have done enormous damage, and not just to military installations.


> Palestine, however, still refuses to sign a peace treaty with Israel,
> and as such, it would be inappropriate of Israel to withdraw their
> forces until such time as Palestine surrenders.

However, Palestine as a sovereign country does not yet exist. The Occupied
Territories belong to other countries (Egypt, Syria and Jordan).


Jeroen

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